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2tone
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Post #16
Monday December 21, 2015 7:48pm

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Gil is headed to Mexico to negotiate with a Liga MX team.

Good for him. IMO RSL has stunted his growth as a player.

dolcem
Post #17
Tuesday December 22, 2015 7:45am

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Original post from 2tone

Gil is headed to Mexico to negotiate with a Liga MX team.

Good for him. IMO RSL has stunted his growth as a player.


Definitely. Not really their fault though, there aren't really the financial incentives in place for them to care about player development.
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Jzaval01
Post #18
Tuesday December 22, 2015 8:16pm

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Mexican play style will fit him much more than MLS. He does well in USA youth teams so he has the tools.

camparkinson
Post #19
Wednesday December 23, 2015 5:40am

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I agree MLS and RSL didn't help him, but he has to take some criticism as well. He didn't ever go out and demand a starting role with his play. He had lots of chances and playing time over the years and just hasn't done it. And his play with the youth teams hasn't been good enough either especially lately with the U23s.

I hope he turns it around but it seems many other CMs are passing him by.

dolcem
Post #20
Wednesday December 23, 2015 7:31am

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Original post from camparkinson

I agree MLS and RSL didn't help him, but he has to take some criticism as well. He didn't ever go out and demand a starting role with his play. He had lots of chances and playing time over the years and just hasn't done it. And his play with the youth teams hasn't been good enough either especially lately with the U23s.

I hope he turns it around but it seems many other CMs are passing him by.


He spent four years on the bench because his team didn't use CM's. The little he did play, it was out of position. It's really hard for a young kid to recover from something like that. Prodigies' careers are derailed all of the time by coaches who are only focused on short term results. And this is particularly the case in the MLS, where the rules kill the incentive to focus on anything other than winning next week.
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Post #21
Wednesday December 23, 2015 7:43am

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Original post from dolcem

He spent four years on the bench because his team didn't use CM's. The little he did play, it was out of position. It's really hard for a young kid to recover from something like that. Prodigies' careers are derailed all of the time by coaches who are only focused on short term results. And this is particularly the case in the MLS, where the rules kill the incentive to focus on anything other than winning next week.


Well Javier Morales doing well never allowed Gil to exceed. Gil still 22 one good season and that can catapult his career.

camparkinson
Post #22
Wednesday December 23, 2015 8:31am

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A prodigy attacking technical CM who cannot play as one of the tucked in wide midfielders in a 442 diamond? One who never looked good even when given chances as the CAM when Morales was out?

I agree it wasn't ideal, but lets not put this all on RSL... dude had many chances and was given playing time. It's not like RSL is a club who doesn't play young players like Tommy Thompson at SJ or something.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #23
Wednesday December 23, 2015 8:59am

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I agree that he has to take some blame as well. He showed glimpses but never had consistency week in and week out.

Rey Regicide
Post #24
Wednesday December 23, 2015 1:45pm

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ned grabavoy always looked better than him in the CM positions =(

4 4 2 perhaps

but when you're outside mids are proper CM's it's a 4 3 1 2

dolcem
Post #25
Wednesday December 23, 2015 8:04pm

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Original post from camparkinson

A prodigy attacking technical CM who cannot play as one of the tucked in wide midfielders in a 442 diamond? One who never looked good even when given chances as the CAM when Morales was out?

I agree it wasn't ideal, but lets not put this all on RSL... dude had many chances and was given playing time. It's not like RSL is a club who doesn't play young players like Tommy Thompson at SJ or something.


There actually is a big difference. I see Gil as a deep-lying playmaker, a poor man's Torres. He needs guys in front of him that he can pass the ball to. Good teams that play a 4-4-2 diamond with CM's (Atletico Madrid, River Plate, for example) have fullbacks that bomb forward to provide width. This has not been the case for RSL; in fact the MLS doesn't really have modern day fullbacks yet. The wingers in their 4-4-2 play as wingers and are usually quite isolated because RSL (or any MLS team, for that matter) doesn't really have the dynamic off-the-ball movement you see from teams in, say, Holland. They usually have to resort to playing long balls to the forwards. RSL has been very effective defensively but they don't really play positively, even by MLS standards. I don't blame Gil for not doing well there, and this year was the first year they used CM's. The MLS just isn't a good league for player development. We've seen a lot of these prodigies fall by the wayside because it's just not quality soccer.
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Post #26
Wednesday December 23, 2015 8:23pm

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Teammate with bormstein. He is a rooster.

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