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hamsamwich
Post #16
Monday December 1, 2014 1:24pm

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Always been a Torres guy myself-

@live- take out Beckerman and put in Danny Williams as CDM with Torres and Bedoya and super Lee Nguyen at the tip of the diamond.

Live490
Texas
Post #17
Monday December 1, 2014 3:21pm

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true that, more athleticism to make up and cover for Torres lack of speed. I think it would be the tight diamond with spa bce for the backs

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #18
Tuesday January 20, 2015 9:14pm

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Gonna miss 10-12 weeks after back surgery.

admsghs27
Post #19
Wednesday July 29, 2015 6:58pm

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Most likely will start in today's Copa Libertadores Final at LB has really been Blossoming there. Tigres can also become the first Mexican team to ever win the prestigious tournament that would be Massive for Concacaf also and take Liga mx as the Best league in the Western Hemisphere.

skangles
DC
Post #20
Thursday July 30, 2015 12:26am

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For all the nonsense that you say on here admsghs27, I have to say that you do a great job of bumping old threads.

Live490
Texas
Post #21
Thursday July 30, 2015 4:26am

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Didn't he win the Sudamericana already with oachuca?

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #22
Thursday July 30, 2015 4:27am

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He didn't start. To bad.

dolcem
Post #23
Thursday July 30, 2015 4:34am

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Original post from admsghs27

Most likely will start in today's Copa Libertadores Final at LB has really been Blossoming there. Tigres can also become the first Mexican team to ever win the prestigious tournament that would be Massive for Concacaf also and take Liga mx as the Best league in the Western Hemisphere.


Typical admdfjlg post. Ridiculous generalization based on one game.

If Tigres were to win (they won't), it would be the first time ever a Mexican team has won the Libertadores. Argentine and Brazilian teams win it all the team. Even though the balance is shifting, Liga MX is still nowhere near those two leagues.

I really, really hope Torres gets tried out at CM this cycle. If Diskerud, Corona, and even Bedoya were given a shot there, why not Torres?
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Live490
Texas
Post #24
Thursday July 30, 2015 4:34am

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Lol and i retract, he was not in that squad of 2006.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #25
Thursday July 30, 2015 4:57am

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Still not a Torres fan myself.

skangles
DC
Post #26
Wednesday September 21, 2016 3:05am

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Good article on Torres from Tom Marshall.

http://www.espnfc.com/club/uanl/232/blog/post...

bjelks
Post #27
Wednesday September 21, 2016 3:18am

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Klejstein and Torres are both trash. Developing Stanko and Gooch would be so much better for program.
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skangles
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Post #28
Wednesday September 21, 2016 3:52am

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Original post from bjelks

Klejstein and Torres are both trash. Developing Stanko and Gooch would be so much better for program.




EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #29
Wednesday September 21, 2016 7:58am

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Original post from skangles

Good article on Torres from Tom Marshall.

http://www.espnfc.com/club/uanl/232/blog/post...


Good piece. Idk where he'll fit in but it'd be good to see him back in the fold.

dolcem
Post #30
Wednesday September 21, 2016 9:57am

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I think people that don't like Torres don't like him because they've only seen him play for the NT.

He is one of the most talented players we've ever had (this is someone who was a regular starter on probably the best Liga MX team in history, and had he not been injured probably would have been bought by Valencia). Anyone that watches him play in Liga MX sees that he has more skill on the ball and better passing abilities than anyone in our pool since Claudio Reyna (not saying much though).

The problem is that he has been extremely poorly used. He was hardly given a chance under Coach Bob, because during that time any of Michael's competitors at CM were frozen out or played out of position. I'll never forget when he finally got the start in that infamous away WCQ in San Jose. Coach Bob had just watched Barcelona the night before and decided to go with a 4-3-3. We got spanked so badly it was embarrassing. One of the goals was slightly Torres' fault but mostly Mastroeni's. Torres though was literally our only field player that didn't suck completely but he got subbed off at half time while Mastroeni stayed on. Pablo was completely gassed by the 70th minute and was a big liability at the end of the game. Torres pretty much never saw the field after that until he was thrown into the starting lineup against Slovenia as a #6 with all of the defensive responsibilities (Michael's role was to run around the field wherever he wanted). It was a bad fit for him and he played poorly, although he was inches away from scoring on a free kick (he's also pretty much the only player in our pool since Claudio Reyna that actually knows how to take set pieces).

Klinsmann recognized his technical abilities and since we have desperately needed attacking midfielders, tried him out as a left mid and a #10, giving him the "keys to the team" (his words). Part of this was out of necessity but part of this was one of Klinsmann's mind games: put a player in a situation that makes him uncomfortable and see how well he responds. The idea is that players that wilt under the pressure won't play well come World Cup time and should be kicked out.

Klinsmann's philosophy worked out great last cycle but I think he was wrong in this case. Torres didn't do well because he's a deep-lying playmaker rather than an attacking mid. He's a poor man's Xabi Alonso, not an Ozil as Klinsmann hoped. He ended up adjusting though and actually played really well as a LM during the 2013 Gold Cup, during which we played the best quality soccer we have in our history (I remember the British commentators I listened to were shocked that he didn't play in the final as they said he had been one of the players of the tournament). He only played for a total of 45 minutes at CM under Klinsmann, in a match against Guatemala where he got an assist (no, he didn't play particularly well, but it was one half).

But he still could have a very useful role in this team. Bradley has been poor since he moved back to the MLS and Torres, if paired with a #6 (like Beckerman, who probably still is the best pure #6 in our pool), would be extremely effective. We would be much better at maintaining possession with him in the midfield. Kljestan and Gooch, for example, are box-to-box midfielders in the same mold as Bradley. Torres, on the other hand, is a different type of player entirely, and gives us something totally different. He can help us pass the ball around.
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