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USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #31
Monday August 26, 2013 6:31am

Joined Nov 2012
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As far as De Rossi vs Bradley......I love Bradley as much as the next guy, but he isn't De Rossi. De Rossi has been and is a world class footballer, for quite some time now. You can't compare Pjanic and Bradley, Pjanic is a 10 with the ability to swing playing the 8 depending on competition, Bradley is a 8 that can play the holding role. Pjanic is a much more creative player. As far as who is going to be sold....Pjanic will most likely be, not because he should be, but because there are other top teams willing to come in and overpay for him.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #32
Monday August 26, 2013 3:33pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 5,012
Meh. De Rossi isn't that good. Very good player, but World Class. IMO, no.

joey11
Post #33
Monday August 26, 2013 5:10pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 159
Original post from Fraser31

Coming from a villa fan I respect that. He wasn't exactly impressive in his stint there.
First, he wasn't given a chance at Villa so to say he wasn't impressive makes no sense. Never understood that loan deal. I don't think Villa had any plans to play him and Gladboch (spelling) didn't have him in their long term plans, which I'm sure they regret now.

Bradely won't be going anywhere soon IMO because:

1. coach said he's in his long term plan

2. He starts and is a good player Roma needs

3. ROMA'S AMERICAN OWNERS WANT AN AMERICA STANDOUT THERE!!!!!!!

I'd be really shocked if they sell him.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #34
Monday August 26, 2013 5:31pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,147
If the money is too good to turn down, I could see them allowing him to go. I'd expect them to make a move for Sacha or Mixx if they're looking to replace him with another Yank...unless they're interested in Johannson up top to replace Osvaldo.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #35
Monday August 26, 2013 5:43pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,191
Original post from 2tone

Meh. De Rossi isn't that good. Very good player, but World Class. IMO, no.


You would be in the minority. Wouldn't surprise me...most Americans I know don't value a great holding mid. Not pretty enough.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #36
Monday August 26, 2013 6:41pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 5,012
Original post from USnLFCfan

You would be in the minority. Wouldn't surprise me...most Americans I know don't value a great holding mid. Not pretty enough.


Lol. Yep I have my opinion about him. I have watched De Rossi and the Serie A for 10 years. He is not a world class DM. A very very good player, but way to inconsistent. World Class players are not inconsistent. What makes a player that is great into world class, consistency.

Makelele= World Class DM.

Beckenbauer= World Class DM/ Libero

De Rossi= Very very good DM.

But hey continue with your gross generalizations.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #37
Monday August 26, 2013 6:57pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,191
Original post from 2tone

Lol. Yep I have my opinion about him. I have watched De Rossi and the Serie A for 10 years. He is not a world class DM. A very very good player, but way to inconsistent. World Class players are not inconsistent. What makes a player that is great into world class, consistency.

Makelele= World Class DM.

Beckenbauer= World Class DM/ Libero

De Rossi= Very very good DM.

But hey continue with your gross generalizations.


My first comment was directed towards you, because you are in the minority with your opinion. The last comment was a broad stroke of Americans, point is that there are a lot of them that honestly think Bradley is a better footballer than De Rossi, not really directed towards you, just a broad stroke that seemed related.

Riggity
Atlanta
Post #38
Monday August 26, 2013 7:51pm

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 66
Yeah, I've found painting in broad strokes works great for me too...not. Last I checked there are plenty of Italian and English(and every other nation, IN THE WORLD) fans who do the same with their talented players. This isn't a problem that is exclusive to the American fans. Get a finer brush.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #39
Monday August 26, 2013 7:55pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,191
Original post from Riggity

Yeah, I've found painting in broad strokes works great for me too...not. Last I checked there are plenty of Italian and English(and every other nation, IN THE WORLD) fans who do the same with their talented players. This isn't a problem that is exclusive to the American fans. Get a finer brush.


The broad stokes comment was directed towards Americans not valuing the holding mid position NOT claiming their individual players are better than others, that's evident across the board. Just named the Bradley being better than De Rossi as an example. Comprehension....it's a tricky thing.

USAfan90
Los Angeles
Post #40
Monday August 26, 2013 11:50pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 46
I don't see a reason why Roma should sell Bradley he has been key player to them, But if he goes to Sunderland even tho it will be step down it can help the USNMT having Bradley playing along with Altidore because it will make good partnership and get to know more where each other are all the time. With Bradley passing skill it will be great.
USAfan90
jtsccr12
Post #41
Tuesday August 27, 2013 2:45pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 80
It seems to me that the mid to lower table EPL would be a horrible idea for Bradley. The Italian game fits right into Bradley's strengths and incredible intellegence. While I am sure he would start for Sunderland, I feel like his growth has a lower ceiling in the EPL mid table. Also, as a USMNT, Serie A better resembles international competition. The spacing and dynamics set Bradley up for a soft touch and a quality pass. The only other league I would be ok if he goes (back) to is the Bundesliga. That said, if a top 5 EPL team was interested, I would definitely be a fan of that move... but who wouldn't be.

I love how much MB's value has increased in the Serie A. He went to Roma for less than 5 mil, and is now valued around 13-15 mil. If he stay consistent for two more seasons, he will be in the 20 range... which is incredible.

Loche Achles
Post #42
Tuesday August 27, 2013 2:53pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 270
Going to Sunderland would not be worth it. It isn't even comparable to Roma. He will have to live in a crap city and play with a mostly crap team, swap great weather for darkness, and go from having a chance at CL and a league title in one of the big four for a chance at 12th in the table or something at the best.

No way this will happen, nor should we want it to. Everton was asking already. That would be acceptable. No need to drop to Sunderland. Let Bradley do his magic again this year and through the WC and let him go to a top 4/5 team like he deserves (IF Roma doesn't become that)

CBoyd3142
Probably far from where you are...
Post #43
Tuesday August 27, 2013 2:54pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 320
Original post from jtsccr12

It seems to me that the mid to lower table EPL would be a horrible idea for Bradley. The Italian game fits right into Bradley's strengths and incredible intellegence. While I am sure he would start for Sunderland, I feel like his growth has a lower ceiling in the EPL mid table. Also, as a USMNT, Serie A better resembles international competition. The spacing and dynamics set Bradley up for a soft touch and a quality pass. The only other league I would be ok if he goes (back) to is the Bundesliga. That said, if a top 5 EPL team was interested, I would definitely be a fan of that move... but who wouldn't be.

I love how much MB's value has increased in the Serie A. He went to Roma for less than 5 mil, and is now valued around 13-15 mil. If he stay consistent for two more seasons, he will be in the 20 range... which is incredible.


Agreed - arguably in his prime right now (or hopefully we haven't seen his best yet?) and would be better poised for a move in a couple of years or so. From a skill and also a marketing standpoint, he's worth a lot to a lot of teams - probably why Roma, with American ownership/management, wants to keep him. A friend of mine lives in Rome and says they absolutely love him.
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ktbffhTXac
Post #44
Tuesday August 27, 2013 2:59pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 124
Original post from admsghs27

No way he goes to sunderland, Roma could win serie A this year and compete for champs league next year.. Personally I think his transfer should be at least 15M euros.. But SUNDERLAND ????? wtf come on he would be better off coming to MLS... why would he go to a team that would most likely be relegated.. well on another note congrats to Cardiff for that stunning upset..


I think this is quite a hasty generalization. The MLS is improving but I don't think it would be a step up from Sunderland, if nothing but for the fact that he would be competing in arguably the best league in the world. I don't really understand all the talk about Sunderland being a relegation team this year either. They have class players and really are only lacking a solid RB and CM/CDM. As they stand right now I think they're easily in the 12-14 range of the BPL, at worst, and a 9-11 team, at best. Either way, Bradley is going to be fine. If he stays in Serie A then he continues to develop his tactical skills, and if he moves to Sunderland then he gets to continue developing his on-field relationship with Altidore (something that would be very advantageous for the USMNT).

tardis91
Post #45
Friday August 30, 2013 5:11am

Joined Jun 2013
Total Posts: 84
Anytime you can have a key player on your national team go to arguably the best league in the world to be a immediate starter, you take that. If we were talking Brek Shea I agree he jumped too early, probably still should switch to CF(another topic), but Michael Bradley could help add to what Sunderland needs. Make a few moves and get a better RB and a few better options going forward now that Sessegnon decided to drink and drive but they could push for a top 6 finish.

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