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Post #91
Thursday September 5, 2013 4:05am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 5,024
Bedoya played Right Wingback once against PSG for 20 minutes. He played as the right winger and then moved centrally against Reims in the last game.

richieJkulesaNY
Post #92
Thursday September 5, 2013 3:07pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 942
Original post from USnLFCfan

They must have been playing a 5-3-2/3-5-2 as there were 4 other defenders. Not the same as playing outside back in a back four.


This is something Taylor Twellman either missed or he doesnt understand it. Neither would surprise me.

logicoverall
Post #93
Friday September 6, 2013 4:35pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 209
There seems to be less chance of Jozy starting according to this report: http://espnfc.com/video/espnfc/video?id=15452...

He hasn't been training fully in the last week, so it is unlikely that he starts the game tonight.

I am sticking with my lineup posted earlier

EJ
FJ Dempsey Donovan
Bradley Jones
Beasley Besler Brooks Cameron
Howard

Subs: AJ, Castillo, Altidore?

I think Altidore's participation will depend on the scoreline at halftime.

dstones77
Hagerstown, MD
Post #94
Friday September 6, 2013 4:41pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 216
Exactly what we'll see.. although Iceman is already miles better than EJ and JK knows it. Johannsson should start

MSantoine
Post #95
Friday September 6, 2013 5:00pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,184
I also wouldnt be shocked to see Dempsey play up top with Lando behind him and Zusi/Fab on the wings.

Nick4235
Boston, Mass
Post #96
Friday September 6, 2013 7:47pm

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 146
http://m.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/09/0...

Great video on mls website. My favorite part is at the end when Donovan says to the room full of reporters "times have changed, there used to be three of you."

rainORshine
Post #97
Tuesday September 10, 2013 2:35pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,773
Original post from rainORshine

i see 3 general possible outcomes from these 2 games - probably the best dress rehearsal JK will have before brazil:

A) play really well over both games and whoever starts these games moves forward as probable starters in brazil. team is fat and happy and virtually no controversy. lots of time before june of course, but would expect very light tinkering as opposed to any heavy remodeling

B) mixed results. no major controversy and tactics are set, but 2-3 positional battles that remain unresolved (likely in defense)

C) 2 poor efforts leaves the team in degree of chaos. questions all over the field and many wondering if JK has it all wrong. winning streak was a mirage. things get very "interesting"

my guess in on possibility "B", but a see modest, equal chance of A and C happening


With option "A" off the table, lets update this.

beat mexico: JK escapes major criticism, but still multiple positional battles to be sorted out in october

draw: 1 pt from these 2 games. some will defend JK by saying we were always going to lose to costa rica when MB went down and a draw v mexico with several players out is a decent result.

others will point to 1 pt as evidence that JK is generally making poor decisions.

ultimately a draw leaves US in good position to qualify and while some fans think JK is not really up for the job, the press gives him a pass

lose at home to mexico: positive results in past look like a mirage and (hopefully) JK put under a fair amount of pressure and scrutiny by the folks asking questions. job is safe, but consensus is that he is not getting the job done

Loche Achles
Post #98
Tuesday September 10, 2013 3:11pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 270
Positive results look like a mirage? So winning twelve straight is a mirage, but losing two is inferred to be showing some truth about things? That he's not getting the job done? Madness.

The only thing questionable from "us fans" (which surely isn't everyone) is that he hasn't called in Kljestan during this round of games. Lichaj a possible second mention but consensus there is wide.

rainORshine
Post #99
Tuesday September 10, 2013 3:31pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,773
Original post from Loche Achles

Positive results look like a mirage? So winning twelve straight is a mirage, but losing two is inferred to be showing some truth about things? That he's not getting the job done? Madness.

The only thing questionable from "us fans" (which surely isn't everyone) is that he hasn't called in Kljestan during this round of games. Lichaj a possible second mention but consensus there is wide.


yes. mirage.

which games out of the 12 against full-strength squads (for 90 minutes) were particularly impressive to you? just curious

the most impressive of the bunch that meet these qualifications that i can see is WCQ home to honduras 1-0

measure that against poor performances this year
@ honduras
v belgium
1st half @ bosnia (before they made wholesale changes)
@ costa rica

in history of Hex US has NEVER had a goal differential as poor as this Hex

plenty of evidence that JK is not getting in done

if people want to focus on wins against inferior concacaf opponents, games played in the snow or a friendly against a team that had never played together before (Germany C team) be my guest.

ill stick with using games played against decent full squads in playable conditions as a measuring stick. but maybe thats just me

rainORshine
Post #100
Tuesday September 10, 2013 4:21pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,773
Roger Bennett - ESPN

"Tuesday night (is) a litmus test about the extent to which Klinsmann's holistic philosophy has taken root."

i agree

win = looks like it has
tie = ??
loss = not so much

i would suggest seeing how tonight goes before making too strong of an argument either way

USsoccerfan90
Post #101
Tuesday September 10, 2013 4:22pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 41
First of all Concacaf is getting better as a whole. Going of the road to Central America is one of the hardest things to do in qualifying, I dont care what European people say. Behind South American qualifying, Concacaf on the road presents the toughest atmosphere to play in. With regards to the Bosnia game they made 4 changes at half. Dzeko, Begovic and Pjanic where all still on the field when the US had tied the game. Spahic could have been sent off as the last defender for his foul on Jozy in the first half and the US didnt have their full squad there if you want to talk about full-strength squads. Also that same Germany "C" team trounced Equador 4-2.

rainORshine
Post #102
Tuesday September 10, 2013 4:24pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,773
Original post from USsoccerfan90

First of all Concacaf is getting better as a whole. Going of the road to Central America is one of the hardest things to do in qualifying, I dont care what European people say. Behind South American qualifying, Concacaf on the road presents the toughest atmosphere to play in. With regards to the Bosnia game they made 4 changes at half. Dzeko, Begovic and Pjanic where all still on the field when the US had tied the game. Spahic could have been sent off as the last defender for his foul on Jozy in the first half and the US didnt have their full squad there if you want to talk about full-strength squads. Also that same Germany "C" team trounced Equador 4-2.


sure. arguments for and against those wins being really meaningful

USsoccerfan90
Post #103
Tuesday September 10, 2013 4:48pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 41
I also believe that given Friday nights result, it just shows how important Micheal Bradley is to this team in the center of the pitch. Not having him tonight is going to be a huge loss as i think Klinsmann will go with his favorite beckerman. Also right back is a huge problem for this team right now.

rainORshine
Post #104
Wednesday September 11, 2013 5:30pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,773
my biggest take-away from these 2 games is probably goodson for besler in the starting 11.

hopefully JK looks to integrate brooks in october and for me goodson has been the steadiest CB of himself, gonzo, besler and cameron

to boot, having the most experienced guy next to brooks is probably the way to go

favored back line as of now:

fabian-brooks-goodson-cameron

what back line are people leaning towards?

tardis91
Post #105
Friday September 13, 2013 6:08pm

Joined Jun 2013
Total Posts: 84
Lichaj Brooks Besler Cameron

Good speed length and aerial ability. Besler looks silly sometimes but his speed is a real asset on the backline. Cameron is a RB, and Lichaj to me has the potential to be the best LB for the US in years, if he gets it right which so far this year he has.

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