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Lykou11601
Post #61
Monday October 21, 2013 2:25am

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 122
I'm upset that Jozy went to Sunderland. It really is hurting him and up until recently I thought the usmnt as well. But him leaving has given Iceman an opportunity. Funny how this worked out but itd be crazy if hes starting and Jozy is on the bench in the world cup.

navi8132
Post #62
Monday October 21, 2013 3:06am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,955
I just don't see us doing a 4-4-2 when you have Donovan, Dempsey, FabJohnson, Zusi, and EJ all vying for attacking midfield spots (yes even EJ).

AronJ will be the starter come Brazil, I am predicting that right now. Jozy will be squarely on the bench.

Lykou11601
Post #63
Monday October 21, 2013 4:39am

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 122
They have the potential to play together. I agree that it just doesn't look likely with our personnel though.

krdonnel
Post #64
Monday October 21, 2013 2:19pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 41
Link to highlights?

dstones77
Hagerstown, MD
Post #65
Monday October 21, 2013 2:33pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 216
http://www.socceroverthere.com/

If you ever want highlights of pretty much every player in every league in europe I use this website they post it all.

oldkeeper
NY, NY
Post #66
Monday October 21, 2013 2:39pm

Joined Jun 2013
Total Posts: 165
Yeah, Jozy F'd himself with that move. And now he's sitting at Sunderland playing only the last 8 minutes of the game. Not looking good for him. Sunderland definitely getting relegated. They're just awful. We're lucky to have AJ now. Depending on Dempsey's form and health, by the time Brazil comes, AJ is either up top in place of Jozy or playing the withdrawn striker where Dempsey plays. Can't see JK keeping him out of the lineup.

kjperuch
Post #67
Monday October 21, 2013 2:46pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 120
I know its their personal lives but you would think Jurgen would be a bit more vocal to these players about where they are going. Maybe he is and guys like Jozy dont listen. I hope that Aron stays at AZ. No need to move clubs right before the world cup.

tylercocinas
Post #68
Monday October 21, 2013 2:55pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 760
Original post from oldkeeper

Yeah, Jozy F'd himself with that move. And now he's sitting at Sunderland playing only the last 8 minutes of the game. Not looking good for him.


He had a transatlantic flight after playing matches in KC and Panama. It could be he was fatigued. Not starting one match does not mean the sky is falling, Jozy is fine. At the very worst, if Sunderland are relegated it could mean Jozy get a one-way ticket out of town.

snipes87
Cleveland, Ohio
Post #69
Monday October 21, 2013 3:58pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 276
No matter how bad they are it's a bid disconcerting to me he hasn't been able to score. Service or no service good players find ways to score. With that being said. 0% chance AJ starts over him in Brazil. Jozy is the starting striker and only injury will change that.
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Know Nothing
Post #70
Monday October 21, 2013 4:01pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 370
I don't see why JK called Jozy in for these matches. He knew a new manager was going to be named at Sunderland and since were were already qualified Jozy might have been better served staying with his club and learning the new system instead of getting a week behind.

Poyet has a decent managerial cv and Jozy certainly should learn something while he is there.

hamsamwich
Post #71
Tuesday October 22, 2013 5:44am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 534
another view on this--

we all know jozy can score in an open game like in holland with AZ. Jurgen's complaint with altidore all along has been his inability to hold up the ball and keep the game flowing and also his work rate on defense. If there isn't a better opportunity to work on those (his weaker areas) than Im not sure I know of one.

Also Gus Poyet plays a good brand of soccer, given a little time im sure it will start to show, whether Sunderland get relegated or not. And also Gus will play Jozy up top, as the other posters said, Jozy had played two games and probably wasnt ready for a full premier league game

hamsamwich
Post #72
Tuesday October 22, 2013 5:47am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 534
on the topic though, Johansson should be ready to score a goal if he gets a chance, and stay hungry in case of injury. I liked the way he and T. Boyd played together that last 10 minutes against Panama, i hope to see that combination again v Scotland or Austria

Dam
Chandler, AZ
Post #73
Tuesday October 22, 2013 6:58am

Joined Aug 2013
Total Posts: 40
Regardless of how Sunderland is playing...so long as Jozy continues to put forth effort in the matches (he's been one of the few bright spots) Jozy will be the starting striker for the USMNT.
Johannsson right now is a strong sub to bring in late in matches. His primary competition will be EJ (speed) & Boyd (muscle). Agudelo & Gomez could make a late push for inclusion....but they've got a lot of work to catch back up to the others.
I actually see Dempsey & Donovan in competition with one another. I would not be surprised to see Bedoya, Zusi, & F. Johnson man the wings with Donovan or Dempsey playing the CAM role.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #74
Tuesday October 22, 2013 4:36pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,154
Original post from Dam

Regardless of how Sunderland is playing...so long as Jozy continues to put forth effort in the matches (he's been one of the few bright spots) Jozy will be the starting striker for the USMNT.
Johannsson right now is a strong sub to bring in late in matches. His primary competition will be EJ (speed) & Boyd (muscle). Agudelo & Gomez could make a late push for inclusion....but they've got a lot of work to catch back up to the others.
I actually see Dempsey & Donovan in competition with one another. I would not be surprised to see Bedoya, Zusi, & F. Johnson man the wings with Donovan or Dempsey playing the CAM role.


While I agree with most of what you're saying, I would argue the premise that Donovan wouldn't be best on the wing. While Bedoya has shown that he's got some aptitude for beating a defender on the outside, he tends more often than not to cut in. It would be more advantageous to keep the D guessing. Donovan still has the burst of speed to beat that defender and get in a good cross, and is just as dangerous if not more so when he cuts in. His skill on the wing is more important than his ability as a CAM, when we have a just-as-strong candidate in Dempsey who is not as versatile.

Personally, I think after this cycle we need to cut that spot and go with a essentially a 4-2-2-2 (2 CDM, LM/RM, 2 strikers). I'm not opposed to the 4-4-2 Diamond formation that we used recently, but that formation, for me, is dependent on a strong CDM that's almost solely defense oriented. Someone like Cameron. I really would like that guy to be more of a Gattuso-type enforcer but that role seems to be phasing out of the game.

Lykou11601
Post #75
Tuesday October 22, 2013 7:05pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 122
Dempsey isn't equally adept at the CAM spot. Dempsey, at his best, is a solid poacher. I haven't seen him play well since Germany. Landon is one of the best play makers we have. He can play the wing but he disappears a lot. I've also noticed how predictable he's become on the wing

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