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EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #121
Tuesday December 30, 2014 10:48pm

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Not only is Zelalem a great get, it reaffirms how much of a soccer hotbed that Montgomery County/DC metro area really is. Its so diverse especially with tons of kids of immigrant parents from Hispanic and African countries.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #122
Wednesday December 31, 2014 12:49am

Joined Jul 2012
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Ahh. Any player that plays for the USA is an "American" player. Tell those dual Americans that have been either fathered or mothered by an American service member that they are any less American than another player that grew up in the states.

Look at Ben Lederman. He is being produced by Barcelona not by any American soccer academy. He left California when he was 11 years old. Is he less of an "American?"

What about Ryan Palmbaum who is being developed in Boca Jr's. Academy? He left the US at 12.

What About Joel Sonora? Less of an American?

What about George Acosta? He is what 13 and is developing at Estudiantes De La Plata in Argentina. Is he less of an American?

What about Timothy Weah? Who left to PSG at 13? Is he less of an American?

Lynden Gooch left California at 15 for Sunderland.

William Packwood left at 15 for Birmingham.

What about Mexican-Americans who are getting developed by Liga MX academies?

It's absolutely ridiculous to say any US citizen is not an "American" player just because they didn't get developed in the States.

Rant over.

Parker brothers would be cool. It seems Devante may have a bigger upside than his brother Shawn.

admsghs27
Post #123
Wednesday December 31, 2014 1:10am

Joined Nov 2012
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Yeah But Zalalem doesn't have American parents or even ancestors. He only lived here for 6 years and was born in Germany. all those guys you listed 2tone are more american than Zalalem not that i care for me if they play for USA and do good then i'm all for it We are a country build of immigrants if they wear the crest and play proudly for this country then their Americans, now a days it seems like most countries have dual nationals.

navi8132
New York
Post #124
Wednesday December 31, 2014 1:16am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 3,122
Interesting commentary http://www.espnfc.us/video/espn-fc-tv/86/vide...

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #125
Wednesday December 31, 2014 1:26am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,290
Original post from admsghs27

Yeah But Zalalem doesn't have American parents or even ancestors. He only lived here for 6 years and was born in Germany. all those guys you listed 2tone are more american than Zalalem not that i care for me if they play for USA and do good then i'm all for it We are a country build of immigrants if they wear the crest and play proudly for this country then their Americans, now a days it seems like most countries have dual nationals.


Then why argue? If you're all for it, why is Zelalem less American than anyone else? You just completely contradicted yourself here.

admsghs27
Post #126
Wednesday December 31, 2014 1:38am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
Original post from EKneezy

Then why argue? If you're all for it, why is Zelalem less American than anyone else? You just completely contradicted yourself here.


Im not arguing i'm just saying all the other players have American relatives or born here and zalalem doesn't. If Zalalem was a wonder kid and a full time starter for Arsena right nowl you know he would of chose Germany as all the other top players do, just look at Rossi for example.

blaise213
Post #127
Wednesday December 31, 2014 1:41am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 3,112
Original post from navi8132

Interesting commentary http://www.espnfc.us/video/espn-fc-tv/86/vide...


Good post! I can never figure out when ESPN FC is on.

skangles
DC
Post #128
Wednesday December 31, 2014 3:53am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,448
Original post from Scout92

Jurgen will probably tell Ramos to call him for u20 WC if he doesn't call him himself. Great news.


This is an important point that we're not talking enough about. If the US qualifies for the U-20 World Cup, Zelalem needs to be there. It's a shame that there isn't enough time to include him in the Concacaf tournament.

Zelalem's citizenship is huge news and he might be able to jump straight into the MNT but I'd rather have him settle in at the youth level first.

chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #129
Wednesday December 31, 2014 5:34am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,533
I'm excited he got his citizenship and looks to have made up his mind to represent the US. His time in the US made a positive impression on him...he wants to rep the US crest, that's a beautiful thing...and a truly American thing. Another big positive is him being at Arsenal under Wenger...that's pure gold for his development.

Nice to see us building some real depth and competition, because we need every single skilled player we can get our hands on...only a few of these guys will be able to put it all together and get stuff done at the international level. The future looks rosy though... waves of talent heading towards the nats.

MSantoine
Post #130
Wednesday December 31, 2014 12:43pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,723
Original post from admsghs27

Im not arguing i'm just saying all the other players have American relatives or born here and zalalem doesn't. If Zalalem was a wonder kid and a full time starter for Arsena right nowl you know he would of chose Germany as all the other top players do, just look at Rossi for example.


He did chose Germany. He repped them at the youth level. he prefers USA. Thats his choice. He lived his formative years (9 to 15) in USA right through the 2010 world cup so that probably had a big impact on him.

Live490
Texas
Post #131
Wednesday December 31, 2014 4:36pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 1,175
i think what admsghs is getting at is choosing the USA as their second option. I am with him on that, like ok cool they chose the USA, but it would have been cooler if it was their first choice, not because they were not going to cut it in mex, Germany, or whatever their first option was.. If they turn out committed like Jones, fantastic. But if they turn out to a Chandler, well then that's something else..

navi8132
New York
Post #132
Wednesday December 31, 2014 4:47pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 3,122
Let's wait to see if he turns into a professional player. Many a solid youth player on Barca, ManU, etc has not turned into successful pros.

Know Nothing
Post #133
Wednesday December 31, 2014 5:13pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,779
Original post from navi8132

Let's wait to see if he turns into a professional player. Many a solid youth player on Barca, ManU, etc has not turned into successful pros.


Too true...Jovan Kirovski comes to mind, though he was a good pro, just not the star we thought he would be.

admsghs27
Post #134
Wednesday December 31, 2014 7:16pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
Original post from Know Nothing

Too true...Jovan Kirovski comes to mind, though he was a good pro, just not the star we thought he would be.


Spector and simek among others.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #135
Wednesday December 31, 2014 8:10pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,570
My guess Zelalem will be with the full USMNT for the Gold Cup not U-20 team. Just my prediction.

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