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leeterofcola
Post #1
Wednesday August 7, 2013 7:56pm

Joined Mar 2013
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I'm sure most of you that frequent this site, have heard the name Gedion Zelalem. He's the German born-Ethiopian, raised in the states and currently turning heads at Arsenal. I heard about him a couple years back, but didn't think he'd be this good this fast. He seems to be in Wenger's good graces as the Professor had him travel with the first team to Asia, where he impressed the hell out of a lot of people, and appears to have skipped the lower levels of the youth program at the club and is in the reserves. Oh and he's only 16. From what I've read he's in the process of obtaining US citizenship and is very much tied to America emotionally. I'm not suggesting at all we start throwing him on the Senior US team or that we crown him savior of US Soccer, but I think Jurgen and Co., better start working this kid to ensure the Germans or Ethiopians don't snap him up first. Word of mouth is he's got the stuff and is on the fast track to stardom. I'd hate to see us lose out on a kid who is very much American.

dunlopp9987
Post #2
Wednesday August 7, 2013 8:06pm

Joined Mar 2013
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What happened to the other Zelalem thread?
COYB!!
leeterofcola
Post #3
Wednesday August 7, 2013 8:10pm

Joined Mar 2013
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I knew there had to be one, but I couldn't find it. My apologies to whoever started it.

Bshredder
Post #4
Wednesday August 7, 2013 8:15pm

Joined Aug 2011
Total Posts: 1,459
I'll say this again.

It is very, very hard to become an American citizen while living abroad. He has to meet residency requirements. It's also harder for Gedion since his father also lives in London with him.

It's best for US fans to not get their hopes up. He's not American.

tylercocinas
Post #5
Wednesday August 7, 2013 9:58pm

Joined Aug 2012
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Not sure how a large segment of US soccer fans missed that Zelalem isn't a citizen and likely wont be one. Before he expidited the move to Arsenal there was an outside chance but now it's even smaller.

platter
Jacksonville, FL
Post #6
Wednesday August 7, 2013 10:07pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 97
Original post from tylercocinas

Not sure how a large segment of US soccer fans missed that Zelalem isn't a citizen and likely wont be one. Before he expidited the move to Arsenal there was an outside chance but now it's even smaller.


The media itself doesn't realize this. As an arsenal fan, I was watching the friendly against Galatasaray this weekend, and when Gedion came on the announcers started talking about Klinsmann potentially trying to lock him up, completely ignorant of the facts.
It's a shame he doesn't have his passport, kids really really good.

kernn63
Post #7
Thursday August 8, 2013 2:21am

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 298
I think the only thing that might get Gedion in is if his stepmom (an American) had legal guardianship for at least 2 years and had adopted him prior to his 16th birthday. As I read it, the residency requirements are retroactive at that point.

It would have taken an incredible amount of foresight it seems for Gedion to keep this option open to him, but Steve Goff reported that Gedion was apparently pursuing this family tie even at the time we all knew he was heading to Europe and wouldn't be able to fulfill the typical residency requirement. So that's the glimmer of hope that people are holding.....that going through family ties is a different process than we're used to as soccer fans who follow potential dual nationals.

________

" The custody and residence requirement may be met by custody and residence that preceded the adoption"

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuit...

Who is an Adopted Child Under the Immediate Relative Process?

Under this process, an adopted child is considered, for immigration purposes, to be the child (or adult son or daughter) of the adopting parent if:

The parent adopted the child before his or her 16th birthday (or before the 18th birthday under certain circumstances as described below). You submit evidence of a full and final adoption
AND
* The parent had legal and physical custody of the child for at least two years while the child was a minor
* The legal custody must have been the result of a formal grant of custody from a court or other governmental entity
* The custody and residence requirement may be met by custody and residence that preceded the adoption

kernn63
Post #8
Thursday August 8, 2013 2:50am

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 298
For instance, in the WaPo, in an article entitled, "Arsenal prospect Gedion Zelalem moves to London from Washington to begin professional pursuits" (dated 8/2012). Goff said this, "Zelalem is not a U.S. citizen, which means he can't represent the country in official matches. However, he is apparently eligible for citizenship through family ties and is pursuing a U.S. passport. Specific details weren't available."

It would be awesome if an enterprising reporter could get some more specifics. Unfortunately, we don't so the path is quite a bit of speculation on my part, but seems doable via adoption *if* the wheels were turning far ahead of his move to London.

stone88
Post #9
Thursday August 8, 2013 3:50am

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,517
This kid would be a great get, but probably not all that likely! I will say though he seems very american. I even saw on Brek Shea's twitter where Gedion congratulated him for the winning goal in the GC Final.

admsghs27
Post #10
Thursday August 8, 2013 5:05am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
Can we please end this thread he wl never ever play for usa.. His not american.. And this.thread has been posted before... Subotic, rossi had a better chance.. And we dont need him we got massive amounts of talents coming up.. Espn deportes actually predicted usa as a top 3 favorites to lift the cup in russia, beyond better odds...

Jzaval01
Post #11
Thursday August 8, 2013 5:18am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,315
Wow I love my National team USA to death but top 3 favorites to lift cup in Russia still far fetched? dont you think? LINK?

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #12
Thursday August 8, 2013 2:12pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,467
Original post from Jzaval01

Wow I love my National team USA to death but top 3 favorites to lift cup in Russia still far fetched? dont you think? LINK?


A little far-fetched, perhaps...but we should take it as a challenge. The growth of soccer in the US has snowballed since the '94 WC, and the popularity of the sport is inextricably linked to the performance of the national team at the major international level, two tournaments in particular - the World Cup and the Olympics. I believe we've reached a level now to the point where recognition can only go up, as we're seeing by the strong MLS attendance numbers. The better we do there, the more interest there is. The more interest there is, the better our league gets. The better our league gets, etc etc etc all the way down the road to the point where we are a perennial top 10 side.

It'll happen...but I don't think in time for 2022. 2030? YYYYEEEEEEAAAAHHHH!! Seriously though, I think the next time we end up hosting it, we'll end up making it to the semis at least.

kernn63
Post #13
Thursday August 8, 2013 2:39pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 298
Original post from admsghs27
Espn deportes actually predicted usa as a top 3 favorites to lift the cup in russia, beyond better odds...


Whoa....this must mean that they are projecting Zelalem to USA.

YESSSSSSSSSS

leeterofcola
Post #14
Thursday August 8, 2013 6:15pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 25
When I said he was American, I meant it in the sense that he is emotionally tied to the country. Most of his formative years were spent here. The fact that he's pursuing US citizenship, to me speaks volumes. How he gets there is anyone's guess, but I think that he's trying at this age is the important part. All you 'glass half empty' types just need to wait and see. IMO Germany could probably use him, but he wouldn't be as valuable as he would be for Ethiopia and the USA. Much more talent to contend with to crack the squad. The USA represents his best opportunity at a World Cup which is every player's dream. And for those of you acting like we don't need him, give me a break. How many kids do we have at a club like Arsenal? How many youth setups produce as much world class talent as Arsenal? Not many on both counts. I'm excited about the current state of the program and the depth in the squad as well, but you can never have enough good players and this kid is not only good, he's exceptional at a very young age.

kernn63
Post #15
Tuesday August 13, 2013 2:24am

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 298
Steve Goff chimes in: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/soccer-in...

He didn't add too much, but one thing that has been reported that is not true is that Gerdion's mother is not a born American-no word on whether she or his father is naturalized.

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