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Post #16
Friday August 2, 2013 6:46pm

Joined Dec 2012
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Original post from recycledhumans

saw this story on the BBC transfer gossip page (my daily read), where they mistakenly identified Juan as a Colombian. Didn't actually read it, but this would make sense. MH is trying to get away from the longball game that TP instituted, so the need for the tall, slow striker force they have is diminished. I see them keeping Crouch and maybe Jerome, but I see Jones being sold if this deal is going to go through.


Not to nitpick, but Agudelo technically is Colombian. Moved to the states when he was 7.

Lilshmike
Post #17
Friday August 2, 2013 6:51pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,462
Original post from 2tone

He won't start in the EPL? Have you seen Stokes ineffective strikers?


Yea, Stokes strikers are ineffective... in the premier league. Put those guys in the MLS and they would be great. If Stoke wanted to, they could put Shea up top and he would do fine.

The premier league is an extremely physical league. Alot of guys have a hard time adjusting to the speed and physicality of the game. Agudelo is good for MLS, but I dont think that there is any way that he would start in the premier league at this time. He is simply not good enough.

He had trials with Celtic and West Ham. If he was not good enough to get signed by those teams, then he prob is not good enough to start for Stoke in the premier league. However, if Stoke:

- sign him
- loan him out to a lower level side for a season(say Championship, Scotland, Eredivisie, Tippeligaen, Jupiler League) to allow him to get a lot minutes and gain European exposure
- bring him back the following season and sit him on the bench as a second option striker
- play him occasionally the second season to allow him to get premier league experience, learn to have a better understanding of the game, and continue to develop
- then see how he is as a starting striker

... it would be much better for him as a player, professional, and usmnt member as opposed to just going to a club where he probably sit the bench, not play much, stall his development, and then get thrown into limbo

admsghs27
Post #18
Friday August 2, 2013 6:52pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
When is the transfer deadline ?

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #19
Friday August 2, 2013 7:10pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,467
I think PDC is going to keep Crouchy until at least January, with a second striker or CAM playing off of him. Having a player that dominant in the air is not something you part with easily.

If he does stay, that's good news for Brek...really he just needs to get his crosses close and Crouchy will do the rest.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #20
Friday August 2, 2013 7:25pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,410
Original post from admsghs27

When is the transfer deadline ?


End of August.

dunlopp9987
Post #21
Friday August 2, 2013 7:35pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 2,647
Original post from recycledhumans

I think PDC is going to keep Crouchy until at least January, with a second striker or CAM playing off of him. Having a player that dominant in the air is not something you part with easily.

If he does stay, that's good news for Brek...really he just needs to get his crosses close and Crouchy will do the rest.


Wrong manager.
COYB!!
Red
NY
Post #22
Friday August 2, 2013 7:45pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 417
I'd like to see him sign on long term with an NE or some other MLS club. Staying in MLS would be best for his development.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #23
Friday August 2, 2013 7:46pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,467
Original post from dunlopp9987

Wrong manager.


Grr, just got back from a very filling Indian buffet and I'm not thinking straight...wrong manager citing aside, I think my point about Crouch is still valid.

richieJkulesaNY
Post #24
Friday August 2, 2013 8:10pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 1,016
Original post from Red

I'd like to see him sign on long term with an NE or some other MLS club. Staying in MLS would be best for his development.


How so? Going up against better players and teams would be best for his development. He'll plateau in the MLS too quickly. He has a European style game anyway. He'll be fine.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #25
Friday August 2, 2013 8:25pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,581
Original post from Lilshmike

Yea, Stokes strikers are ineffective... in the premier league. Put those guys in the MLS and they would be great. If Stoke wanted to, they could put Shea up top and he would do fine.

The premier league is an extremely physical league. Alot of guys have a hard time adjusting to the speed and physicality of the game. Agudelo is good for MLS, but I dont think that there is any way that he would start in the premier league at this time. He is simply not good enough.

He had trials with Celtic and West Ham. If he was not good enough to get signed by those teams, then he prob is not good enough to start for Stoke in the premier league. However, if Stoke:

- sign him
- loan him out to a lower level side for a season(say Championship, Scotland, Eredivisie, Tippeligaen, Jupiler League) to allow him to get a lot minutes and gain European exposure
- bring him back the following season and sit him on the bench as a second option striker
- play him occasionally the second season to allow him to get premier league experience, learn to have a better understanding of the game, and continue to develop
- then see how he is as a starting striker

... it would be much better for him as a player, professional, and usmnt member as opposed to just going to a club where he probably sit the bench, not play much, stall his development, and then get thrown into limbo


Huh, did you miss the whole thing with Lennon really wanting Agudelo at Celtic last season?

First of all everything you are stating is pure speculation. Not signing for one team has no bearing on what happens with other teams.

Hughes isn't going to sign him to loan him out. He will be in Hughes plans for this season if this transfer goes through.

MLS is an extremely physically demanding league. That's why MLS players have been looked at and purchased more by EPL teams.

Agudelo will be just fine. Agudelo doesn't need to be a starter to have success either. He could be a very good option off of the bench while working his way to becoming a starter.

I think this move will be good for him.

Oh yeah put those guys in MLS and they would be great. Look I understand that you look down on MLS, but in no way do I think Jones, Crouch, Jerome would have instant success in MLS.

Agudelo will be just fine and I wish him success with Stoke.

Jaybinho20
Post #26
Friday August 2, 2013 8:52pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 70
I am not sure about this. I want Agudelo to go where he will play. Maybe Hughes is very high on him and sees him pushing Crouch, Jones, Walters for playing time. I, honestly, believe he has the potential to be better than those guys. Reports that Crystal Palace are also interested.... I am fine with a move as long as he plays. Could play his way back into the World Cup picture with a move to a big leage and PT.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #27
Friday August 2, 2013 8:53pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,410
There are PLENTY of forwards that are not physical but still play regularly and succeed in the EPL. Walcott, Coutinho, Silva, Weimann, Oscar, Hazard, Agbonlahor, Defoe, Chicharito, etc etc.

rjw77
Post #28
Friday August 2, 2013 8:59pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 289
Good point made previously. The physicality of the EPL shouldn't be too hard of an adjustment since the MLS is known for being physical as well.

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