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chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #106
Saturday December 20, 2014 6:25am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,469
Cali should just have three teams... add Sac to SJ and LA..... north , middle and south. Sac has the fan base to pull it off.

SF doesn't need their own team, and I doubt they'd have enough dedicated fans to pull it off...they're a fickle bunch....too many entertainment opportunities, sporting and otherwise. They had A league level teams (Seals) in the past and they withered and died.

Totally jackass to have another LA team, another prefabricated rivalry. SD had the Sockers in the old NASL days, but couldn't sustain the support.

I'm really surprised St Louis hasn't made more noise for a team considering their history as a soccer hub...Minneapolis is definitely deserving.

I would be a complete joke if Vegas got a team.

blaise213
Post #107
Saturday December 20, 2014 8:25am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,847
I drove by the new Earthquakes stadium yesterday. Didn't realize how close to the freeway it was. Surprisingly, it actually looks pretty cool.

I think MLS will end up with 32-34 teams. I think Canada will get a 4th team because one of the stadiums in Edmonton or Ottwa (forget which one) is getting ramped for the Womens World Cup with 25,000 seats.

MLS goofed on the LA2 thing. I've lived in San Diego, There's a lot of fair weather fans but if done right, it could be really successful.

Im pulling for 5 teams in Cali

You should check out the renderings for the SF stadium proposal, pretty bad ass. I heard the olympic committee is favoring Boston and will get voted on in 2017. I think the Revolution should take some interest.

stone88
Post #108
Saturday December 20, 2014 4:11pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,504
Original post from blaise213
I drove by the new Earthquakes stadium yesterday. Didn't realize how close to the freeway it was. Surprisingly, it actually looks pretty cool.

From what I've seen it looks like a VERY nice venue! With this, the Quakes are starting to look like a real professional organization.








Nick4235
Boston, Mass
Post #109
Saturday December 20, 2014 5:04pm

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 164
As a Revolution fan that's too long to wait in my opinion. That's 10 years before the Revs could move in.

skangles
DC
Post #110
Saturday December 20, 2014 5:22pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,412
The Revs supposedly have their eye on a plot of land in Boston that is also rumored for an Olympic venue. It might be in the Revs best interest if Boston isn't selected for the Olympics.

The San Francisco Olympic renderings look nice. I'm salivating at the thought of an Olympic Stadium on the RFK site in DC but I'd be happy with the Olympics in DC, Boston or San Francisco. I just don't see any reason why LA should host the Olympics for the third time.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #111
Saturday December 20, 2014 6:31pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,265
Don't be surprised if the Revs move to Providence. Providence want the revs there while Boston hasn't really made their intentions known if they want the Revs.

blaise213
Post #112
Saturday December 20, 2014 6:34pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,847
Original post from Nick4235

As a Revolution fan that's too long to wait in my opinion. That's 10 years before the Revs could move in.


Well, if Boston was awarded the Olympics, they could start the construction in 2017. Too bad we couldn't get the 2020 games.

I favor Boston because that stadium wouldn't work in San Francisco. That site is in the hood by the old 49ers stadium. For MLS to work in SF, a stadium has to be in the downtown area.

I think Rome and France are the international competition

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@ stone

It looks good in person. A huge upgrade from buck shaw stadium

chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #113
Sunday December 21, 2014 12:40am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,469
Blaise, the stadium is badass. They have tours every Thursday and I believe you can schedule a one on one tour if you're interested in season tickets. I hear the FO is going to have a little holiday fan fest at the outdoor bar...probably in January.

hamsamwich
Post #114
Sunday December 21, 2014 1:44am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,044
California deserves as many teams as they can get. Great markets, weather, fans, soccer history -- Cali is definitely #1 for soccer in the USA. My parents live out in Sac so it will be cool if this happened.
Good for the Quakes and their fans they are quality.
The MLS screwed up the Chivas thing, I'm not blaming LA or Cali for that one.

The California market is proven and growing. It's a great place for 3,4,5 maybe even 6 teams.

admsghs27
Post #115
Sunday December 21, 2014 3:53am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
Cali is the best. And now with LA County's population at 10.7 million I think the second LA team can prevail.

blaise213
Post #116
Sunday December 21, 2014 9:57am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,847
@chris_thebassplayer

I had season tickets a season ago, didn't renew it. My friends brother works directly for the earthquakes president. I get in the games for free when I ask him. I'll have to ask him about the tour but I should be there for opening day.

@admsghs27

not filling LA2 at all bro.

If there were 6 MLS teams in Cali, it should be: Sac, SF, SJ, LA, Anaheim, SD

mmee
Culver City, CA
Post #117
Sunday December 21, 2014 11:43am

Joined Mar 2014
Total Posts: 2,147
Any idea of 2 LA teams, for me, is going to come with memories of Chivas USA.
It was a attempt to split LA down racial lines via marketing, in practice if not in "philosophy"- and if you remember what Mexican club was running that marketing, it shouldn't surprise you. Thankfully it backfired and I remember more than one Latino being disgusted by the pandering. The head office shares the responsibility.

But the bigger question is what is the direction of the league looking ahead a decade. I would prefer teams with a bunch of $1M players over what we have now, which is still a bunch of newbies and plumbers, with a handful of $4M to $7M players. I respect the hell out of RSL, by the way, for making the team the star. I honestly think any moneyball team that succeeds should be the pride of the league in its present state.
(I am not moving to Utah (or Houston), thank you)
The worst 6 players of each team's top 15 are just not good and if you look at the typical salary allocation, it's fairly disgusting, especially when Liga MX does it the right way and it's a better league than MLS with not that much more money. I wish we could sell the game more and not sell the marquee players (and a bunch of $35K players) so much.

Another big problem area is: should we hold at 24, or should we genuinely split into 2 tiers and have promotion/relegation, or what? I don't know about chasing the NFL / MLB / NBA / NHL model and flirting with the idea of 32 teams, when those sports don't compete with the world for their players and MLS does. 24 is already too many...

I still fear a boom-and-bust if expansion gets played wrong. But there was an interesting article saying that there's not a lot to worry about economically, because the owners as a whole are targeting growth:
http://www.brotherlygame.com/2014/2/11/539251...
There's plenty to worry about in terms of qualitiy.

I personally would like to see us aim for being an excellent feeder league, and have Garber stop blathering about being a top 5 league when that's like three tiers away right now, and we're not even doing so well for our continent or hemisphere.

In a total pie-in-the-sky scenario, we'd make a continental league out of the 20 biggest markets in North America, and just scrap CONCACAF Champions League. I don't see why we're obliged to model Europe in every last way.
I know this will never happen, but damn if I don't think that would be good for CONCACAF:
Top 20 teams travel all over the continent
Next tier leagues are more localized
I don't really see how FIFA could block it if CONCACAF wanted it. But I just don't see CONCACAF coming together in that way because it would mean a bunch of teams going 'down a league' at the inception of this plan, and the travel would be an absolute bitch.

joey11
Post #118
Sunday December 21, 2014 11:45pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 278
They have to be careful or they'll do what many poor leagues do expand out of existence. 32 teams is way to many. The qualiy drops because the quality players are not there for 32+ teams! We're not Europe, we don't have rosters where everyone is an internal quality player. If you go that high split league with relegation system like Europe. Also buy/sale option not trade between clubs.

blaise213
Post #119
Monday December 22, 2014 4:47am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,847
@joey11

32 teams will work in the US because geographically and financially it can be supported. Soccer produces an array of talent from all over the world.

Our domestic leagues in other sports markets are more limited on the amount talent being produced because majority of the athletes are American (NFL,NBA,NHL, MLB).

admsghs27
Post #120
Monday December 22, 2014 4:54am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
Original post from blaise213

@joey11

32 teams will work in the US because geographically and financially it can be supported. Soccer produces an array of talent from all over the world.

Our domestic leagues in other sports markets are more limited on the amount talent being produced because majority of the athletes are American (NFL,NBA,NHL, MLB).


It wont happen not even NFL can support 32 teams. Just look at Jacksonville, Rams, Raiders, even chargers etc... they are all thinking of relocating the city doesn't support the team constantly. I'm sure 10-20 years from now other NFL teams will be relocating as well. If it was up to me 20 trams would be perfect for MLS 24 is a bit much and also considering the schedule do you play more or less games ??? and also do not like the fact that there will be an extra playoffs spot makes the season a bit less competitive. Look at he NFL only 12 playoff spots out of 32 and MLS what ? 10 of 20 make the playoffs just look at the % difference is Huge, that's why NFL is very competitive every single game.

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