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Post #16
Thursday August 1, 2013 9:30pm

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Original post from admsghs27

Just food for thought, that would be kool, how about 1 team in a place with no sports or much to do. For example, billings Montana ? Idaho ? Wisconsin ? South dakota ? Alaska( no fields) ? Kentucky ? Nebraska ? NM ?..


As someone from Wisconsin I would like to point that we have the Packers, Brewers, Bucks, Wisconsin badgers football and bball, and marquette basketball.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #17
Thursday August 1, 2013 9:32pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,567
[quote]Original post from Know Nothing

All hail the city of Minnesota...btw, what state is it in again? Just Kidding

Looking at the map, the southern states are not well represented, and neither is the northern midwest (Wisconsin and Minnesota). Without taking ownership into account, I think Orlando, Raleigh/Durham, Birmingham, and Minnesota would give the league a nice geographic balance. I would have said Miami except MLS has already failed there once.[/quote

Lol, yes I realize what I did. I meant to put Minneapolis.

tylercocinas
Post #18
Thursday August 1, 2013 9:34pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,151
Original post from blaise213
The DC United stadium proposal is a joke. Why cant they build something like tottenham's new stadium with 30,000 seats. I swear to god people do not take weather into consideration with stadiums...


Not really sure why you're complaining. How you can say the stadium proposal is a joke when none of us have any idea regarding the proposed design. Additionally the stadium will house between 20-25,000 people. Not a far cry from the 30,000 you suggested.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #19
Thursday August 1, 2013 9:51pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,467
Original post from admsghs27

Just food for thought, that would be kool, how about 1 team in a place with no sports or much to do. For example, billings Montana ? Idaho ? Wisconsin ? South dakota ? Alaska( no fields) ? Kentucky ? Nebraska ? NM ?..


The issue there is that in the absence of professional sports, people will still gravitate toward their sport of choice, but on a less professional level. We see it a lot in Texas with our football. In the more rural areas where they don't have a professional team, they live for their local college team, especially if it's a D1 NCAA school (Texas Tech, A&M, etc). In even smaller towns where there isn't a college team, they live for the high school team.

If you're able to guarantee a certain number of season tickets being sold (see Indianapolis RE: a proposed team), or the area is particularly known for producing good talent, I think that it wouldn't be hard to be perceived as the top dog of spectator sports in the area. It would be smart if MLS moved into a large statistical without any professional teams and start building that team as an institution.

stone88
Post #20
Thursday August 1, 2013 10:31pm

Joined Aug 2012
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East- NYRB, NYCFC, DC, Boston, Philly, TFC, Montreal, Columbus, Chicago, Miami, Orlando, St. Louis

West- LAG, Chivas, Seattle, Portland, Vacouver, SanJose, San Antonio, Real SL, Colorado, Houston, Dallas, KC

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #21
Thursday August 1, 2013 10:39pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,288
Im pretty sure Orlando will be next after NYCFC. But the next three will be fanastic to see who comes in. San Antonio and St Louis look like good candidates.

I live in Atlanta but we have the Silverbacks.

stone88
Post #22
Thursday August 1, 2013 10:45pm

Joined Aug 2012
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Original post from admsghs27

So by 2020 if they play one away, one home game with every team, that would be 46 games.. It will be interesting how the schedule would be, plus trow in open cup, champs league, international friendlies.. Also i doubt canada gets a team.. I think there has to be at least 2 teams in the southeast.. Mia, orl, carolinas, atl, bama, good options.. Others minn, okc, sac, san ant,onio, st louis good options.


Yup, the schedule is going to be tricky! Personally, I really really hate the weird uneven schedule.

With 24 teams it'll either be 46 games home and away, which is alot, or only 22 games home and away within your own conference. I think 46 games is too much if teams are going to be involved in champions league and open cups.

Maybe you go with the 22 game schedule, but emphasize the Open cup more, by making it a huge bracket tournament between the top three tiers of US soccer, allowing all teams in those three tiers to compete. It should give the MLS alot more games than 22, help develop and invest money into the lower tiers, and revive the US Cup, the oldest soccer tourney in the US. I dunno!

rainORshine
Post #23
Friday August 2, 2013 1:07am

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 2,097
Original post from stone88

Yup, the schedule is going to be tricky! Personally, I really really hate the weird uneven schedule.

With 24 teams it'll either be 46 games home and away, which is alot, or only 22 games home and away within your own conference. I think 46 games is too much if teams are going to be involved in champions league and open cups.

Maybe you go with the 22 game schedule, but emphasize the Open cup more, by making it a huge bracket tournament between the top three tiers of US soccer, allowing all teams in those three tiers to compete. It should give the MLS alot more games than 22, help develop and invest money into the lower tiers, and revive the US Cup, the oldest soccer tourney in the US. I dunno!


probably heading towards 4 divisions - 6 teams per division

play everyone in conference twice = 22 games
other conference x 1 = 12
= 34 games

alternately you play everyone in division 3x - 15 games
everyone esle 1x = 18
= 33 games

id vote for 1st option

i think 46 is too many when you think about adding open cup, CCL, summer frindlies, etc..

23 not enough for sure

stone88
Post #24
Friday August 2, 2013 1:14am

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,519
Original post from rainORshine

probably heading towards 4 divisions - 6 teams per division

play everyone in conference twice = 22 games
other conference x 1 = 12
= 34 games

alternately you play everyone in division 3x - 15 games
everyone esle 1x = 18
= 33 games

id vote for 1st option

i think 46 is too many when you think about adding open cup, CCL, summer frindlies, etc..

23 not enough for sure


Yeh I like that first option too!!

blaise213
Post #25
Friday August 2, 2013 1:17am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 3,111
Expansion for MLS

#20 - NYCFC
#21 - Miami (beckham will get it next)
#22 - Orlando
#23 - San Francisco
#24 - St Louis
#25 - Las Vegas (first professional team)
#26 - Indianapolis
#27 - Minnesota
#28 - San Diego

If we go to 30. Pittsburgh and Sacramento/San Antonio

Chivas USA to Arizona.

rainORshine
Post #26
Friday August 2, 2013 1:27am

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 2,097
something like this?

portland
seattle
vancouver
LA
SJ
Sac/vegas/arizona?

Houston
Dallas
RSL
Colo
SKC?
San Anton?

NYRB
DCU
NE
PU
florida?
southeast #2?

Toronto
NYFC
Chicago
C-Bus
Montreal
Stl? / minn/stpaul?

rainORshine
Post #27
Friday August 2, 2013 1:36am

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 2,097
actually, never mind about divisions - no need. but only 1 game each non-conference per year

MSantoine
Post #28
Friday August 2, 2013 2:15am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,723
Firstly for people thinkng theres too many teams I think MLS is really trying to become NALS as in the North America League Soccer. I think they want to integrate Canada. If you think of MLS being the premier league for 2 of the 10 largest countries in the world then 30 teams is nothing.

I think everyone is in agreement that Orlando is all but guarenteed a spot. If Beckham forces MS to put a team in Miami thats team number two. As stated in previos paragraph I think Canada gets a 4th team (Ottawa to rival Montreal and Toronto, or maybe Edmonton or Calgary to rival Vancouver, Portland, & Seattle). 4th team imo will be midwest. Maybe St Louis. I could also see Detroit or Indy to create another rival with Chicago and Columbus.

skangles
DC
Post #29
Saturday August 3, 2013 12:20am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,448
Indy is an interesting candidate. The MLS held their draft there, they were one of the hosts for this club champion cup or whatever the current ongoing high profile friendly tournament in the US is called and they will be getting an NASL team soon. I could see them making the jump.

FC Edmonton is another team that we shouldn't lose site of. As much as we talk about the Southeast, I think getting that fourth Canadian team to even things out is something we on a website called 'yanks-abroad' probably don't rate as high as the league does.

St. Louis deserves a team though and they should somehow pay homage Simpkins-Ford.

skangles
DC
Post #30
Saturday October 19, 2013 2:57am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,448
It sounds like the Orlando bid may be in jeopardy due to local politicians. Big vote coming up on Tuesday.

This was the best quote in the article about the politician that they need to convince in order to get a positive result:

But Edwards feels that since more than $200 million has been spent on renovating the Citrus Bowl, OCSC should simply play its games there, even though MLS has stated that a smaller venue is required in order for OCSC to garner an expansion team.


Absolutely right Garber, as great as the Orlando City fans have proven to be, if the politicians are going to make these kinds of demands you walk away and find some place that is serious about having an MLS team.

This Edwards chap is completely delusional and appears to think the MLS needs Orlando City more than Orlando City needs the MLS. I mean Garber walked away from the Cosmos, one of the biggest soccer brands in the US when their owners decided not to follow the line with their stadium location selection. Orlando shouldn't think for a second that he won't do the same to them. The difference is the Orlando City ownership seems to really want this and is doing all the right things and its the local politicians that are the bottleneck.

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1587258/orl...

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