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MSantoine
Post #886
Sunday April 27, 2014 4:14pm

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Original post from USnLFCfan

Seems like Wickham and Borini have no problems scoring goals, and it's with the same players Altidore had to play with. They have also helped them climb out of the relegation zone withe a game in hand with the clubs in that zone.


Sunderland had almost 60% possession. How often did they do that when Jozy was in? The midfield and fullbacks have stepped up for Sunderland. That's the biggest difference.

thisguy2
Inland empire
Post #887
Sunday April 27, 2014 6:00pm

Joined Dec 2012
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Or maybe Jozy is just not good enough like we think he is... Same players and coach. The team plays better without Jozy lazy ass self.
Thisguy2
USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #888
Monday April 28, 2014 1:56am

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Original post from MSantoine

Sunderland had almost 60% possession. How often did they do that when Jozy was in? The midfield and fullbacks have stepped up for Sunderland. That's the biggest difference.


Whatever helps you sleep at night.

admsghs27
Post #889
Monday April 28, 2014 3:13am

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Jozy is a Lazy Slob!!!

yodaddy101
Post #890
Monday April 28, 2014 4:08am

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Original post from admsghs27

Jozy is a Lazy Slob!!!


I don't know about that, he had a crazy streak with the USMNT earlier this year. The day Sunderland starts to work the ball out wide and cross it into the 18 accurately is the day that Jozy Altidore scores.
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GD10
Post #891
Monday April 28, 2014 4:31am

Joined Dec 2012
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I feel like Wondolowski could have done a better job at Sunderland than Jozy to be quite honest.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #892
Monday April 28, 2014 4:48am

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Original post from yodaddy101

I don't know about that, he had a crazy streak with the USMNT earlier this year. The day Sunderland starts to work the ball out wide and cross it into the 18 accurately is the day that Jozy Altidore scores.


Wickham seems to be finding no trouble scoring.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #893
Monday April 28, 2014 5:43am

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Both Sunderland and Jozy together have struggled this season. But it doesn't look good when Wickham and Borini are scoring while Jozy didn't. Is Wickham better than Jozy? Or has Gus finally taken the shackles off of Sunderland. Hard to say which. Jozy did play well last week with Sunderland with a more open approach. But Wickham is scoring so Gus will stay with the hot hand like any manager would do.

If Sunderland do stay up it looks increasingly like Jozy will be second fiddle to Wickham next season. Which might not be bad thing. Jozy will still get plenty of minutes, and won't be expected to do the lions share of the goal scoring. Which means he can refocus, and just play.

skangles
DC
Post #894
Monday April 28, 2014 1:25pm

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I understand the Wickham argument as he has come on and is scoring in buckets. I don't understand the Borini argument as he has 8 goals for Sunderland this season, 4 of which came from the spot. His last two goals came from converting PKs that Wickham and Jozy earned. Borini is a talented player but like everybody at Sunderland not named Wickham he has had his struggles this season.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #895
Monday April 28, 2014 2:46pm

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Original post from skangles

I understand the Wickham argument as he has come on and is scoring in buckets. I don't understand the Borini argument as he has 8 goals for Sunderland this season, 4 of which came from the spot. His last two goals came from converting PKs that Wickham and Jozy earned. Borini is a talented player but like everybody at Sunderland not named Wickham he has had his struggles this season.


Not really, there were spots where he couldn't find the back of the net, but his work-rate and movement never dropped, and even in the games he didn't score, he was working the keeper at least.

Fraser31
Charleston, South Carolina
Post #896
Monday April 28, 2014 4:21pm

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Yeah the few games I could actually muster the fortitude to watch Sunderland for more than five minutes, Borini looked threatening, which is more than can be said for the rest of the striker/forward pool at Sunderland, even Jozy. But I'd like to echo 2tone's comment. If Sunderland can stay up, Jozy won't have the pressure on him to score like he did this season. Additionally, he'll be more acclimated to the league, which will allow him to take a deep breath and make the decisions he DIDN'T make this season. There were several chances for Jozy to have assists, take earlier shots, and just make better decisions on the ball. He didn't capitalize on those things. He'll bounce back, it's just a matter of when.

That said, there IS a concern of mine as to whether the EPL is even for Jozy. I'd rather see him somewhere where he's scoring and gaining confidence, which does wonders for him as a player and does good things for our USMNT striker pool. Don't get me wrong, I want him to be challenged so he can excel as player, but if he's not scoring then he may need to dial it back. Perhaps NYCFC would be a good move for him, or even just a different league in Europe; I can't imagine his stock is very high, though.

Jzaval01
Post #897
Monday April 28, 2014 8:22pm

Joined May 2013
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I think the real question is does Gus even want Jozy? Di Canio was the one who brought Jozy to Sunderland.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #898
Monday April 28, 2014 8:50pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from Jzaval01

I think the real question is does Gus even want Jozy? Di Canio was the one who brought Jozy to Sunderland.


That's the kind of CF he likes.....though it looks like Wickham is better as of now, so he might be willing to let Jozy go.

Jzaval01
Post #899
Tuesday April 29, 2014 3:09am

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Who knows... I mean Fetcher seems like he is done. Socco isnt a target forward and Borini will definite be a good option for liverpool depth next season. What are the chances stays in Liverpool next season? Jozy being in bench at least is a positive sign but i think jozy should just leave EPL. Dempsey and Bradley have actually looked better now that they are established in MLS. Jozy just needs games and goals doesnt matter where for him confidence wise.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #900
Tuesday April 29, 2014 4:15am

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from Jzaval01

Who knows... I mean Fetcher seems like he is done. Socco isnt a target forward and Borini will definite be a good option for liverpool depth next season. What are the chances stays in Liverpool next season? Jozy being in bench at least is a positive sign but i think jozy should just leave EPL. Dempsey and Bradley have actually looked better now that they are established in MLS. Jozy just needs games and goals doesnt matter where for him confidence wise.


Borini will be staying at Liverpool next season to provide depth and start games in cup runs and the odd league game. Poyet's always played with a target forward not sure he will change.

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