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admsghs27
Post #211
Saturday October 5, 2013 7:34pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,189
If they cant win these type of games they dont deserve to he in the epl.. Heck wouldn't be suprises if they get relegated next year from the championship, and end up in league 1... You have to question the players, even with guardiola the team will still suck...

Loche Achles
Post #212
Saturday October 5, 2013 7:37pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 270
The fans absolutely have turned on Altidore... Being on their forums is depressing. Its a sinkhole of a place and I wish he had never gone. EPL is where strikers go to die. They are playing hoofball because they are always behind, and Altidore is rarely targeted by his teammates... Time and again they can't deliver the simplest pass or cross into the box after 3 minutes of hold up play in the final third.

Plus you call tell Altidore is down. He is barely showing much effort by the end of the games because he knows it isn't worth his time... Very disappointing

Only good thing is he will leave when they are relegated and go somewhere he can score.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #213
Saturday October 5, 2013 7:41pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 5,050
Sunderland fans as all English fans are idiots. If Adam Johnson would pass the goddamn ball when Altidore is in very dangerous spots then Altidore would have at least a couple goals by now.

It was a bad move to begin with.

To be honest I didn't think Altidore would make another bad move after the Spanish debacle, but obviously his agent is failing him.

Sunderland wants Jozy to be this knock down target striker, and that is not what Jozy is.

I am tired of seeing American players in the EPL to be honest. I want to see more American born players go to the Bundesliga or Serie A. The disrespect American players are shown in England is ridiculous.

navi8132
Post #214
Saturday October 5, 2013 7:51pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,952
All responsibility is on Jozy for this poor move. All he had to do was choose a team that pays well and whose midfield can provide service. Jozy is an irresponsible decision maker.

EKneezy
Post #215
Saturday October 5, 2013 8:47pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,860
Honestly they weren't gonna win by scoring just one goal. I could care less what the Sunderland fans think. Strikers need service to succeed. Hoofball isn't the way to go. Sunderland is lucky the promoted teams are garbage as well.

admsghs27
Post #216
Saturday October 5, 2013 9:45pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,189
Well good luck to Sunderland, altidore next year in the championship... Even there they could get relegated...

bbakerxyz
Post #217
Sunday October 6, 2013 2:12pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 237
Am I reading too much into Jozy's body language? It just looked like he was acting like a little bitch when things didn't go his way. I hate that attitude; it's un-American. We're supposed to be the Michael Bradley, Landon Donovan never-say-die-guys.

He needs to stop acting like a 5 yr old when things don't go his way and show 100% effort all the time. It's hard to root for him when it doesn't even look like he's excited when someone else scores. Or, like I said, maybe I'm just reading too much into it.

rjw77
Post #218
Sunday October 6, 2013 2:20pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 265
He barely celebrated when they got their goal and looked really pissed off whenever someone else messed up an opportunity for him.

Lykou11601
Post #219
Sunday October 6, 2013 5:46pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 122
It's possible that he understands Sunderland's likely relegation. Could be angrier with himself than anything.

oldkeeper
NY, NY
Post #220
Monday October 7, 2013 2:40pm

Joined Jun 2013
Total Posts: 165
Original post from bbakerxyz

Am I reading too much into Jozy's body language? It just looked like he was acting like a little bitch when things didn't go his way. I hate that attitude; it's un-American. We're supposed to be the Michael Bradley, Landon Donovan never-say-die-guys.

He needs to stop acting like a 5 yr old when things don't go his way and show 100% effort all the time. It's hard to root for him when it doesn't even look like he's excited when someone else scores. Or, like I said, maybe I'm just reading too much into it.


His attitude when things are going poorly and body language are one of the problems coaches have had problems with him in the past. It's all great when it's going his way like at AZ, but this is a real problem. Jozy is looking really unprofessional. If feel for him because the service SUCKS and he is actually playing well in a hold up roll, but the tantrums and lack of effort late in games because of the frustrations are going to backfire. Hoping it doesn't carry over to the USMNT but who knows. It did in his previous cold streak before last year. No doubt JK is watching this situation closely. If/when Sunderland do get relegated AND if Jozy has an out clause, this is no doubt going to hurt his transfer possibilities within the BPL. I hope someone in his inner circle have a sit down with him. Losing and being on a crappy team is no fun but he needs to focus on the USMNT and his long term career right now but remaining calm and putting in consistent effort no matter what.

jtsccr12
Post #221
Monday October 7, 2013 2:45pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 80
To be honest, I feel for Altidore. I had a hard time counting how many times he was wide open in the box to slot a finish home, only to have a Sunderland player chunk a ball and lose the opportunity. While I hope he keeps his professionalism in check, I do think Jozy has a right to be frustrated. He is a competitor, he is a handfull for defenses, and he is still being under-utilized. His hold up play against ManU was very good, and for a stretch in both halves he was the most dominating player on the pitch. Unfortunately, once he gets the ball and plays his first pass with his back to goal, he never sees the ball again. I would love to see Sunderland land a player that can actually play a through ball in the middle to final third, but at the bottom of the table many quality players will work hard to avoid the Black Cats.

Loche Achles
Post #222
Monday October 7, 2013 5:19pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 270
Question to anyone else who reads the SMB... Are one of you AmericanPride? Please tell me no. That is all.

Otherwise very disappointing again for Jozy. AJ whiffs when he is wide open in the box on a 3 yard pass. Gardner too. Its like they purposefully don't pass to him, waiting for Giach to show up. All around terrible situation for Jozy.

Do they study film in the BPL? Always wondered that... Because if so I wonder what the coach would have to say about the execution there...

Fraser31
Charleston, South Carolina
Post #223
Monday October 7, 2013 7:21pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 996
Uhm, not sure if this was addressed in another thread or if I missed it in this one, but apparently Sunderland plans, since they've given Di Canio the boot, to hire Gus Poyet in his place:

http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/premierlea...

Sorry if this has already been discussed.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #224
Monday October 7, 2013 9:18pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,153
Gus was floated with Di Matteo as the two early front runners. Steve McClaren's name was bandied about for a day or two before he took the Derby job.

EKneezy
Post #225
Monday October 7, 2013 10:29pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,860
Seems that Poyet will be the new manager.

But looking at their next few games after the intl break, they need some wins. Swansea, Newcastle, and Hull are all winnable games. Plus that new manager smell might give them the boost they need.

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