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2tone
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Post #1
Thursday July 25, 2013 9:53pm

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It is a very slow news day, so I compiled my list of Dual National players that make the decision to play for the US this year.

1. Brooks: He has the opportunity to probably go to the WC with the US in 2014, and be a major contributor in 2018 and 2022. This will be a major perk for him to decide to rep the US. He already has strong ties to the US, and his senior Germany prospects are a long ways off. I put money on Klisnmann bringing him into the Bosnia friendly roster.

2. Aron Johannsson: He wants to get a look with the US camp and the Bosnia friendly will be the perfect time to bring him in. Klinsmann will work his magic, and I put money on him filing a one-time switch to the US. Icelands prospects of going to a WC in the next 12 years are next to nil.

3. Julian Green: I would not be surprised if Klinsmann calls him up for the November friendly with Austria. He is already a big part of Ramos' plans for the 2015 U-20 WC team.

4. Hoyos: He has already stated his desire to rep the Stars and Stripes. Would that be the case if he would have never had the car accident? I don't know. But he has talent, and Klinsmann has been in touch with him. If he has a good campaign in Greece, I wouldn't be surprised to see him called up even as soon as the November friendly against Austria.

5. Ricardo Bocanegra: He seems to be in the mold of a Jose Torres, but slightly more attack minded. He seems average to me, but Klinsmann's camp has been in touch with him even as recently as June. Don't be surprised to see him get a few friendly call-ups this year.

These are the 5 dual national players I see making to decision to rep the US this year.

Shawn Parker has made multiple statements saying he wants to stay with the German program, but Klinsmann and his camp is pursuing heavily still which means Parker and his camp is still considering and thinking hard about switching to the US. But my guess he still wants to see if he is going to be a major part of Germany's 2015 U-23 Euro campaign. I wouldn't get my hopes up about him anytime soon.

Bshredder
Post #2
Thursday July 25, 2013 11:11pm

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Honestly.. is Hoyos even good enough for the US? No. He'll choose the US if he is but I think it's a Charlie Davies situation.

Ricardo Bocanegra is likely not good enough and reports are that he's not a likable guy in the lockeroom.

I'm fine with recruiting dual nationals but when talking about guys in their mid 20s (beyond the youth NT level), I really think they need to be significantly better than the status quo. Otherwise it'll hurt morale and chemistry. It sends the wrong signals to the rest of the US team to bring in mediocre players from decent but not elite leagues.

Remember, the US team is playing well right now. It's a high bar to break into the team.

Johannssson and Brooks, yes.. go for them.

Hoyos and R. Boca, I don't see it.

Green, of course but he's at a youth NT level right now

The fact that Klinsmann is talking to these guys doesn't really indicate much. He's aware of them, sure but that doesn't necessarily mean he rates them.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #3
Friday July 26, 2013 3:01am

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I agree about Bocanegra.

Hoyos incident happened at a young age which means he has plenty of time to get back up to speed. He is still only 21 years old. I try not to give definite answers on any player because it just makes a person look ridiculous later on. I am not saying he is going to be where he was as a youth player, but he has quite a bit of time to get there.

Will Hoyos get called in for a friendly this year? Well that all depends on his form. It may or may not happen.

Yep it is a high bar to break into the US team, but Klinsmann will take the best players a year from now, and there may be or probably will be some changes to the squad a year from now. Which gives every player a chance to shine this year.

Is there player locks? Probably, but that could change with injuries, and form.

Klinsmann has shown that he will keep every option and door open regardless what all of us fans and journos think about players like ( EJ, Wondo, Torres, etc...)

tylercocinas
Post #4
Friday July 26, 2013 10:22am

Joined Aug 2012
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Hoyos playing in the Greek League was motivated by a desire to get some European attention. However, unless his form improves from what he showed in the latter portion of his time at Estudiantes then he's got no chance.

I think he should've gone to MLS. RSL would've been an excellent location and they were interested in him as well. He could've had access to USMNT via the January camp. More power to him though, hope he succeeds.

I think if Jurgen offers JAB some friendly looks with the 1st team he could potentially be swayed but I still think that given his relative youth there is still a chance he might not be ready to decide.

You're spot on with Johannsson, 2tone. If he can do well with AZ this season I think we would have the perfect group of pure forwards to bring to Brasil in Jozy, Clint, EJ, and Johannsson.

MSantoine
Post #5
Friday July 26, 2013 11:41am

Joined Nov 2012
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Question for BShredder - if Parker switched to us tomorrow does he become our starter at LW going forward? I dont see anyone else in our pool regardless of age that has the ability to get minutes for a mid table Bundesliga team

rjw77
Post #6
Friday July 26, 2013 12:35pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 265
Original post from MSantoine

Question for BShredder - if Parker switched to us tomorrow does he become our starter at LW going forward? I dont see anyone else in our pool regardless of age that has the ability to get minutes for a mid table Bundesliga team


Fabian Johnson has played at LW and LB for a usually mid table bundesliga team that just had a bad season last year.

kernn63
Post #7
Friday July 26, 2013 2:14pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 81
Original post from 2tone
1. Brooks: He has the opportunity to probably go to the WC with the US in 2014, and be a major contributor in 2018 and 2022. This will be a major perk for him to decide to rep the US. He already has strong ties to the US, and his senior Germany prospects are a long ways off. I put money on Klisnmann bringing him into the Bosnia friendly roster.


Looks like you've nailed this one already!

tylercocinas
Post #8
Friday July 26, 2013 2:16pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 738
Props to 2tone and s/o BShred. I think we all understand the implications of this, and what it could mean for our WC squad if Brooks does impress on the international level the way he did at the club level.

But I won't get ahead of myself. Glad to see him wiling to put on the US shirt.

richieJkulesaNY
Post #9
Friday July 26, 2013 2:28pm

Joined Jun 2012
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This is big. If JAB fully commits, he's starting in Brazil.

dstones77
Hagerstown, MD
Post #10
Friday July 26, 2013 2:32pm

Joined Mar 2013
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Where do I preorder my Jersey lol

CBoyd3142
Probably far from where you are...
Post #11
Friday July 26, 2013 2:39pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 320
Don't get me wrong, I'm pumped to see JAB take one closer step to committing to the US. However, I'd like to keep my expectations level-headed - he's young, unaccustomed to US soccer, and clearly has a lot of expectation on his shoulders with CB being one of our more questionable spots. I'd hope more people would be the same, but with Gonzo being inconsistent, maybe he really can be the answer. Just cross your fingers.
Toffee Fan....for the moment
MSantoine
Post #12
Friday July 26, 2013 6:11pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,142
Original post from CBoyd3142

Don't get me wrong, I'm pumped to see JAB take one closer step to committing to the US. However, I'd like to keep my expectations level-headed - he's young, unaccustomed to US soccer, and clearly has a lot of expectation on his shoulders with CB being one of our more questionable spots. I'd hope more people would be the same, but with Gonzo being inconsistent, maybe he really can be the answer. Just cross your fingers.


I think people are excited because he potentially could be the next generation Dolo. A bundesliga regulat who anchors our defense. Throw in the fact that its our weakest position and that hes an actual young prospect (U20 is young in soccer, 23-24 is not young in soccer) and theres plenty to like

stone88
Post #13
Friday July 26, 2013 6:54pm

Joined Aug 2012
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Close to having an all German-American backline. fabian--brooks-???--chandler

EKneezy
Post #14
Friday July 26, 2013 7:51pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,796
I'm excited for Brooks' future. He's good with the ball at his feet and has great size. It seems he's a worthy talent. I dont wanna get too excited but his potential and the fact he has strong ties to the US is exciting.

rainORshine
Post #15
Friday July 26, 2013 8:20pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,772
ok, so best case scenario - JAB joins, does well with HB this season, earns starting gig with USMNT by early next year:

how do we line up (assuming cameron does NOT play CB for stoke - they still have shawcross and huth)?

JAB-besler? or JAB-goodson?

both JAB and besler are LCBs. i could potentially see besler moving to RCB

goodson may be the better compliment as he provides the most experience to partner a guy who turns 21 in january

thoughts?

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