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muchadu
Post #16
Tuesday July 23, 2013 7:31pm

Joined Feb 2013
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Actually should have considered Cameron, Danny Williams or Goodson for the defensive back line also in my lineup.

dstones77
Hagerstown, MD
Post #17
Tuesday July 23, 2013 7:59pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 216
no

muchadu
Post #18
Tuesday July 23, 2013 10:33pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 41
@dstones77 why?

jackface
Post #19
Tuesday July 23, 2013 11:00pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 19
@muchadu Three in the back? We give up goals to weak teams in the gold cup, granted not our first choice back line, how do you think we would fair with 3 in the back vs. WC caliber teams? Gonzo is so slow and ponderous on the ball, plus mistake prone. Disaster waiting to happen. I like Adu, just dont think he is our best option to start in JKs preferred 4-2-3-1. I hope he gets playing time and performs well, could be a solid option off the bench for Zusi or one of the deep CMs late in a goal scoring situation.

JFORD
Post #20
Tuesday July 23, 2013 11:10pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 128
Original post from Alcharod

Victoria is two points from leading the Brasileirão.....


Brasileirão is only beginning. Many teams that are in the top of the table will fall, and many important teams are in bottom of the table and will raise. Nobody in Brazil believes Bahia (or even Vitoria that is considered better) will keep in the top of the table. Bahia was recently in a crisis and now starts to find the right path.

About protests. They're mainly because economic inflation, excessive taxes and political corruption. They're wide spread in Brazil and has several causes in different parts of Brazil.

Many brazilian important players came back to Brazil in last years. However the main players are still in Europe. Only one player (Fred) that was in start line-up in last Confederation Cup still plays in Brazil.

bjelks
Post #21
Wednesday July 24, 2013 4:30pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 146
Zusi is garbage. I don't even know why he's in the 23 let alone starting. Can anybody tell me what he brings to the table?

Freddy is the key to our attack being formindable against top class sides.

He's the only American player I've ever seen with the ability to take on anybody on the pitch in any situation.
goalsense
CBoyd3142
Probably far from where you are...
Post #22
Wednesday July 24, 2013 4:51pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 320
Original post from bjelks

Zusi is garbage. I don't even know why he's in the 23 let alone starting. Can anybody tell me what he brings to the table?

Freddy is the key to our attack being formindable against top class sides.

He's the only American player I've ever seen with the ability to take on anybody on the pitch in any situation.


It's hard to tell if you're really being serious here - it's like you stopped watching soccer about five or six years ago and just came back.
Toffee Fan....for the moment
bjelks
Post #23
Wednesday July 24, 2013 5:26pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 146
Lol, he is garbage. I've never seen him beat anybody 1v1 before or do anything of any difficulty with the ball. Nobody has told me what he brings yet. Speed, power, technique, creativity? He's just average.

U.S. gives too many players credit for trying hard, "being a good team player", and playing it safe.

What does that even mean? Nowhere else in the world do they applaud players for doing nothing special.
goalsense
kicksNgiggles10
Birmingham
Post #24
Wednesday July 24, 2013 5:40pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 331
Original post from bjelks

Lol, he is garbage. I've never seen him beat anybody 1v1 before or do anything of any difficulty with the ball. Nobody has told me what he brings yet. Speed, power, technique, creativity? He's just average.

U.S. gives too many players credit for trying hard, "being a good team player", and playing it safe.

What does that even mean? Nowhere else in the world do they applaud players for doing nothing special.


He beat a Jamaican to give an assist to Jozy in that game. IMO he is a good crosser of the ball. He's solid.
We are going to Brazil
munns5986
Post #25
Wednesday July 24, 2013 5:43pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 97
Bjelks you kind of contradict yourself there. You say Americans applaud doing nothing special and Adu should play and is the key ingredient to the US doing good when he hasn't done anything special in several years. Look I hope he figures it all out because he could be a very valuable asset but he just isn't there yet.

rainORshine
Post #26
Wednesday July 24, 2013 5:44pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,773
Original post from bjelks

Lol, he is garbage. I've never seen him beat anybody 1v1 before or do anything of any difficulty with the ball. Nobody has told me what he brings yet. Speed, power, technique, creativity? He's just average.

U.S. gives too many players credit for trying hard, "being a good team player", and playing it safe.

What does that even mean? Nowhere else in the world do they applaud players for doing nothing special.


that is basically all true. the only things that he really has going for him is that his coaches trust him, he consistently produces offense and he is generally viewed as an extremely valuable part of the teams he plays for.

i would totally agree that zusi is a pretty average player.

i would just add, however, that he is far better than guys who, for whatever reason, can't keep themselves in the starting line-up, seem to create conflict with coaches and generally are just not good enough to consistently add much value to the teams they play for

dstones77
Hagerstown, MD
Post #27
Wednesday July 24, 2013 5:52pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 216
Original post from muchadu

@CBoyd3142 exactly my point. I wasn't really meaning to discuss Brazillian economics or the problems they are facing due to the WC or Olympics. I was just trying to point out Freddy got some playing time and if it continues JK needs to stand by his word and if an American was getting playing time in 1st division Brazil, take a good look at him and give him a chance of USMNT playing time. Freddy is the missing part of the puzzle for the USMNT next summer. Zusi,Freddy and Donovan would be great playing in front of Bradley and Jones. Play Altidore on top and Deuce underneath him roaming. A 3-2-3-1-1.
This lineup would be our most potent as far as a chance to score in the first half of a WC. If we are ahead at half, pull Freddy or Zusi and insert a fourth defender. Our back line could be Chandler, Gonzo and Fabian then add Dolo, DMB or Besler at half. This is about as high octane a lineup as the US could produce and would probably surprise opponents. Anyone think this lineup could be our best effort in Brazil?


Just because that makes absolutely no sense... if you want 3 defenders why would you have Chandler and Johnson who are attack minded defenders in your back 3? and why is Gonzo your centerpiece over Besler... just F*ck no delete your comment and never again

bjelks
Post #28
Wednesday July 24, 2013 6:33pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 146
@munn The last time Freddy played for the national team he was rated as the best player on the field by the other country's press.
I've never heard of such an honor for Zusi. I'm not getting into the politics of US soccer, but Beckerman, Parkhurst, and Goodson are trash as well and they've got a lot of time over much better players. So, how can you really value the coaches' trust that much?

@kicks Any professional winger should be a "good crosser of the ball" with time and space.

@rain Produces offense or is he a byproduct of low competition and his much better teammates opening space for him?

He consistently plays because Donovan has been AWOL, Gyau and Taylor haven't been getting consistent time because of their youth and more competitive club environments, or because Parker, Wood, Wooten have been trying to settle into their clubs?

I'm just saying let's look at the big picture guys. We all know we have much more talented players than Zusi and to compete against the big boys in the WC, we'll need to have as few weak links as possible.
goalsense
munns5986
Post #29
Wednesday July 24, 2013 7:14pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 97
The last time Adu played for the national team has been several years so by that logic we should suit up Friedel and Lalas because they were really good several years ago. I am not saying Zusi should be starting. I think he should be on the bench for the World Cup with Donovan starting in that spot and Fabian on the other side. If we can't find a LB then move Fabian back and hopefully by that time Shea has progressed enough at Stoke to be able to take the starting job. If not then Zusi on the right with Landon up top behind Jozy and Dempsey on the left sneaking in so Fabian can get forward like we are doing with Beasley and Torres.

muchadu
Post #30
Wednesday July 24, 2013 7:23pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 41
Original post from dstones77

Just because that makes absolutely no sense... if you want 3 defenders why would you have Chandler and Johnson who are attack minded defenders in your back 3? and why is Gonzo your centerpiece over Besler... just F*ck no delete your comment and never again


First of all, to switch from a weak defense minded, lame counter attack type team that we have always been, that can only score more than a goal or two, there has to be a creative solution.

Secondly, if we use Besler in the middle fine. I was just looking for some quality defenders who could also benefit from Bradley and Jones playing a more defensive minded midfield in front of 3 defenders. Gotta lose the hack defenders we have tried like Parkhurst, Goodson, DMB etc.

Thirdly, Try not to use profanity as it exposes you as an idiot and destroys credibility.

Lastly, respect other peoples opinions unless you qualify as a professional soccer coach.

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