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muchadu
Post #1
Monday July 22, 2013 10:30pm

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Looks like Fred came off the bench for Bahia in Sunday's game against one of the better teams in Brasil, Vitorio. Played 13-14 minutes in 0-0 tie against a good team. Hopefully a start pretty soon. It would be great for him to get a call up for the August friendly against Bosnia.

Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #2
Monday July 22, 2013 10:44pm

Joined Dec 2012
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Adu needs a miracle...

muchadu
Post #3
Monday July 22, 2013 11:02pm

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These games the USMNT are winning by 4 and 5 goals are fun to watch, but not a good indication on how they will fare against the top twenty teams in the world. Even if they play Mexico in the Gold Cup, the WC rosters will be a lot different than the Gold Cup rosters. For a real test on how they are doing see what we did against Belgium this year and play close attention to how they perform against Bosnia in the August friendly. This will be a great measuring stick to how we are doing and if we indeed need a skillled attacking midfielder like Adu.

JFORD
Post #4
Monday July 22, 2013 11:03pm

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Vitória is not one of the best teams in Brazil. However Adu played in classical match. Vitória vs Bahia is the most important match for Bahia supporters. In Brazil rivalry matches are very important.

Ohana
Post #5
Monday July 22, 2013 11:52pm

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In looking at the early season standings to this point, Bahia is very competitive...but Adu isn't playing. Whoever his agent is, he needs to fire them. I'm not an expert on Brazilian soccer, but I thought most players are trying to get out of Brazil.

stone88
Post #6
Tuesday July 23, 2013 12:11am

Joined Aug 2012
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Original post from Ohana

In looking at the early season standings to this point, Bahia is very competitive...but Adu isn't playing. Whoever his agent is, he needs to fire them. I'm not an expert on Brazilian soccer, but I thought most players are trying to get out of Brazil.


No actually, I think his agent is a freakin miracle worker. To get him onto a Brazilian 1st division team, after looking at his career results and trajectory, is truly Jesus Christ kind of stuff.

skangles
DC
Post #7
Tuesday July 23, 2013 1:09am

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Why do we need two Freddy Adu threads?

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #8
Tuesday July 23, 2013 1:18am

Joined Jul 2012
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Original post from Ohana

In looking at the early season standings to this point, Bahia is very competitive...but Adu isn't playing. Whoever his agent is, he needs to fire them. I'm not an expert on Brazilian soccer, but I thought most players are trying to get out of Brazil.


That's false. Brazil is hitting an economic boon, and the teams have the financial means to pay their players higher wages as well as bringing talent in from other parts of the world.

CBoyd3142
Probably far from where you are...
Post #9
Tuesday July 23, 2013 2:35pm

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Original post from 2tone

That's false. Brazil is hitting an economic boon, and the teams have the financial means to pay their players higher wages as well as bringing talent in from other parts of the world.


Not to disagree with this, but then why were there protests? I'm truly asking a question here, not criticizing.
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munns5986
Post #10
Tuesday July 23, 2013 2:50pm

Joined Oct 2012
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There are protests because the citizens are being taxed more for renovations to be able to host the WC.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #11
Tuesday July 23, 2013 3:00pm

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Original post from munns5986

There are protests because the citizens are being taxed more for renovations to be able to host the WC.


Exactly. Even in Economic boons there are still some very poor citizens regardless. The people are getting taxed out of the wazoo due to the WC. I just read an article on how a large pizza costs an upwards of 30 dollars. The people are protesting because the government is spending billions of dollars over what was projected in the first place. The government is dipping into the pot of money for the WC that was reserved for public projects i.e. more funding for schooling, rebuilding and renovating public transportation, construction projects meant for roads etc... That is why there are protests.

The Brazilian teams are on good financial footing though. That's why Santos was able to hold onto Neymar a little longer.

Alcharod
302
Post #12
Tuesday July 23, 2013 3:20pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 574
Original post from JFORD

Vitória is not one of the best teams in Brazil. However Adu played in classical match. Vitória vs Bahia is the most important match for Bahia supporters. In Brazil rivalry matches are very important.


Victoria is two points from leading the Brasileirão.....

Alcharod
302
Post #13
Tuesday July 23, 2013 3:23pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 574
Original post from munns5986

There are protests because the citizens are being taxed more for renovations to be able to host the WC.


CBoyd i believe is referencing when Bahia lost to Vitória in the state league like 7-1 and the fans stormed the facilities and demanded change...one of which was for Adu to get his playing time.

This was the event that lead to Bahia firing all those players and their coach, giving Adu a 3rd coach even though he hasn't even been with bahia a year.

CBoyd3142
Probably far from where you are...
Post #14
Tuesday July 23, 2013 3:32pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 319
Thanks for the clarification, gents. As someone with roots in international finance, I should really know that (although my focus is Europe). Guess it sucks for the Brazilians to hear that Qatar is planning $500B on spending for their WC.

Wasn't aware of the fans storming the field for Bahia and being behind Adu - that's "good", I guess. The support is nice but I'd be afraid to be a player on either side when fans storm the field.

To get back on topic, it's good to hear Freddy's bagging more PT. Baby steps....
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muchadu
Post #15
Tuesday July 23, 2013 7:15pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 41
@CBoyd3142 exactly my point. I wasn't really meaning to discuss Brazillian economics or the problems they are facing due to the WC or Olympics. I was just trying to point out Freddy got some playing time and if it continues JK needs to stand by his word and if an American was getting playing time in 1st division Brazil, take a good look at him and give him a chance of USMNT playing time. Freddy is the missing part of the puzzle for the USMNT next summer. Zusi,Freddy and Donovan would be great playing in front of Bradley and Jones. Play Altidore on top and Deuce underneath him roaming. A 3-2-3-1-1.
This lineup would be our most potent as far as a chance to score in the first half of a WC. If we are ahead at half, pull Freddy or Zusi and insert a fourth defender. Our back line could be Chandler, Gonzo and Fabian then add Dolo, DMB or Besler at half. This is about as high octane a lineup as the US could produce and would probably surprise opponents. Anyone think this lineup could be our best effort in Brazil?

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