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Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #16
Monday July 22, 2013 7:22pm

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Why don't we give kids that grew up here (at least arrived at like age 6) automatic citizenship...

blaise213
San Francisco CA
Post #17
Monday July 22, 2013 7:35pm

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Original post from Scout92

Why don't we give kids that grew up here (at least arrived at like age 6) automatic citizenship...


because they collect welfare. 71% of kids born from illegal immigrants get a government check.

There needs to be a special program for soccer players in the US.

rjw77
Post #18
Monday July 22, 2013 7:45pm

Joined Jul 2013
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Original post from blaise213
There needs to be a special program for soccer players in the US.


Lol I'm sure this is going to happen.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #19
Monday July 22, 2013 11:16pm

Joined Jul 2012
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Uhm, no.

Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #20
Tuesday July 23, 2013 12:32am

Joined Dec 2012
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Getting welfare has nothing to do with citizenship...ignorant..haha

And the Gov doesn't care enough about soccer to create anything...

CBoyd3142
Probably far from where you are...
Post #21
Tuesday July 23, 2013 2:33pm

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I think it was Poland who gave an African based player citizenship before the 2002 WC - I think the entire process was 24 hours. There are many reasons way beyond soccer that we don't do this - as much as I would love to have guys like that streamlined into our country, an advanced process would open too many negative doors into other areas that would give us headaches later.
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JaLa
Qingdao
Post #22
Wednesday July 24, 2013 7:10am

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"because they collect welfare. 71% of kids born from illegal immigrants get a government check."

71% of all stats are made up.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #23
Wednesday July 24, 2013 3:17pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from blaise213

because they collect welfare. 71% of kids born from illegal immigrants get a government check.

There needs to be a special program for soccer players in the US.


You should really fact-check yourself. http://www.cis.org/immigrant-welfare-use-2011

kicksNgiggles10
Birmingham
Post #24
Wednesday July 24, 2013 5:53pm

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Original post from USnLFCfan

You should really fact-check yourself. http://www.cis.org/immigrant-welfare-use-2011

•We estimate that 52 percent of households with children headed by legal immigrants used at least one welfare program in 2009, compared to 71 percent for illegal immigrant households with children. Illegal immigrants generally receive benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children.
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USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #25
Wednesday July 24, 2013 6:30pm

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Original post from kicksNgiggles10

•We estimate that 52 percent of households with children headed by legal immigrants used at least one welfare program in 2009, compared to 71 percent for illegal immigrant households with children. Illegal immigrants generally receive benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children.


Yeah, I know, I was on my phone, that was suppose to quote the Jala guy. I was agreeing with Blaise. People don't realize how much money government gives out. Just look at how much they give out as foreign aid, even to countries that aren't friendlies. Though the parents are receiving the money not the kids.

kicksNgiggles10
Birmingham
Post #26
Wednesday July 24, 2013 7:19pm

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Original post from USnLFCfan

Yeah, I know, I was on my phone, that was suppose to quote the Jala guy. I was agreeing with Blaise. People don't realize how much money government gives out. Just look at how much they give out as foreign aid, even to countries that aren't friendlies. Though the parents are receiving the money not the kids.

No worries.
Yeah I heard something on the news the other day about how people on EBT in the US can use it to send food to other countries. While the idea is honorable, if someone is not using their food stamps then clearly they dont need them.
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MSantoine
Post #27
Wednesday July 24, 2013 7:32pm

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Original post from kicksNgiggles10

No worries.
Yeah I heard something on the news the other day about how people on EBT in the US can use it to send food to other countries. While the idea is honorable, if someone is not using their food stamps then clearly they dont need them.


Not disagreeing but its not just a minority thing. There are white americans who take the milk, bread, etc from EBT and rather than use it either sell it to friends/family or give it to them even though they could afford it.

CBoyd3142
Probably far from where you are...
Post #28
Wednesday July 24, 2013 8:04pm

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It's across the board - a strip club somewhere was busted for allowing EBT like debit to snag dollar bills for patrons. There's a great photo on Google Images of a person buying several 12 packs of soft drinks along with steak and lobster - all shown on the receipt and paid for by EBT. That's got to be something federal authorities limit as to what you can buy with that. Anyways, it's another thought entirely.

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kicksNgiggles10
Birmingham
Post #29
Wednesday July 24, 2013 8:28pm

Joined Oct 2012
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Original post from MSantoine

Not disagreeing but its not just a minority thing. There are white americans who take the milk, bread, etc from EBT and rather than use it either sell it to friends/family or give it to them even though they could afford it.


Oh absolutely.
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kernn63
Post #30
Thursday July 25, 2013 3:52pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 60
Long time lurker, first time poster.

Steve Goff seemed to hint that he could gain citizenship if his step-mother (an American) were to formally adopt him. So, if he desires citizenship or just the ability to keep his national team options open, it does seem like there's a path.

Not an expert in the process so I'm sure others can correct me if I'm wrong on this front, but Goff knew full well at the time of the report that Gideon would be living in England yet still believed USA door was still open to Gideon.

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