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2tone
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Post #1
Wednesday July 17, 2013 4:14pm

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I think there is a big hole at striker depth behind Jozy. I will take a look at the candidates, and then give a prediction of my 4 strikers taken to the WC and 4 alternates. I am not including neither Dempsey nor Donovan in the striker pool, for me they are attacking midfielders.

Jozy, as long as he doesn't get injured, is the only lock at striker right now

One foot in the door:

EJ: He has cooled off for Seattle this season( most of it due to WC qualifying), but Klinsmann seems to like what he brings to the table.

Gomez: He is all hustle and bustle. Klinsmann likes him, but I don't think he is a lock as some seem to think.

The contenders:

Boyd: He has athleticism and a scorers ability, but needs to really kick into a goal scoring gear this year for Rapid. Hit against him is that he plays in an awful league. He may not even be on the next WC qualifying roster.

Wondo: He has to show he can score against better teams, but he has shown an ability to come into a game as a sub, provide a spark, and score goals.

Agudelo: As long as he stays healthy and has a stable club situation; he will be in the convo for 2014.

Jack Mac: He needs to keep on scoring for Philly. Has impressed in training during the Gold Cup. My guess Klinsmann uses him in friendlies leading up to the WC. He may get the nod for the WC.

Wooten: Talented and versatile. He can play as a striker or as a winger. Has pace, and can score goals at a steady rate. This could be a very big year for Wooten with Kaiserslautern.

Wood: Same as Wooten. He can play as a striker or as a winger. Very athletic and very intelligent on the ball. Scored some spectacular goals for 1860 last season. He is primed to get a lot of minutes for 1860 this season.

Charlie Davies: I know people are going to say he hasn't done anything with Randers yet. But he has had a very good pre-season scoring goals and being a difference maker, and looks to really be in line to be a starter this season. He is a fan favorite, and the games I watched him in last year made me think that the Davies of old is not to far away. Could put himself back into the convo if he starts scoring goals regularly.

Bruin: I like him, but I don't think he makes many friendly rosters leading up to the WC.

So for me "right now" the 4 strikers will be: Jozy, EJ, Agudelo, Gomez. But of course things will most certainly change leading up to the WC.

4 alternates: Boyd, Jack Mac, Wood, Wooten

That's a hell of a lot better striker options than what the US had in 2010.

rainORshine
Post #2
Wednesday July 17, 2013 4:53pm

Joined Dec 2012
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not really any need to bring more than 2 of these guys beyond jozy.

we play a 4-4-1-1. jozy is obviously the man up top and dempsey and donovan are obviously the options for the role underneath jozy - whatever you want to call it (id call it a second forward)

bringing 3 back-ups for jozy would be massive overkill

as of now, id say:
in
1) jozy
2) EJ
3) boyd

out
4) gomez
5) wondo
6) macinerney/agudelo/wooten/wood/bruin/davies

that being said, EJ is having a lousy season and boyd has done nothing to solidify a spot, so those spots are definitely up in the air

kicksNgiggles10
Birmingham
Post #3
Wednesday July 17, 2013 6:53pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 306
I dont think Wood or Wooten will be there at all.
We are going to Brazil
recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #4
Wednesday July 17, 2013 8:29pm

Joined Nov 2012
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I'm going to say that we'll see Altidore, Boyd, Agudelo and Gomez.

Altidore and Gomez have the more physical style of play and can bring people into the play effectively, Boyd and Agudelo are more slippery and will look to get in behind running off the shoulders of the backline.

I'm only picking 4 because I believe he'll stick with a one striker system with Dempsey in that withdrawn striker/CAM role.

Bshredder
Post #5
Wednesday July 17, 2013 8:33pm

Joined Aug 2011
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1) Jozy Altidore
2) Aron Johannsson
3) Chris Wondolowski
4) Herc Gomez

camparkinson
Post #6
Wednesday July 17, 2013 8:41pm

Joined Aug 2012
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Wow that's quite a prediction to have Wondo and Johannsson. Wondo has never played any meaningful world cup qualifying minutes for the A team and Johannsson isn't even a USA player at the moment.

I say 4 forwards at Brazil will be Jozy, Dempsey, E. Johnson, Herc Gomez.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #7
Wednesday July 17, 2013 9:15pm

Joined Nov 2012
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I will concede that Dempsey can be considered a forward, but not a striker in terms of this question.

stone88
Post #8
Wednesday July 17, 2013 9:35pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 661
Original post from camparkinson

Wow that's quite a prediction to have Wondo and Johannsson. Wondo has never played any meaningful world cup qualifying minutes for the A team and Johannsson isn't even a USA player at the moment.

I say 4 forwards at Brazil will be Jozy, Dempsey, E. Johnson, Herc Gomez.


I don't think Johannsson is a huge stretch. He has currently turned down Iceland a number of times to get a chance at checking out the USA set up. So unless he comes in and really hates klinsmann and the boys, which would be hard to believe, there is a really good chance he choses the USA. And if he does, he is easily the second best pure striker we have. Hell, he could even end up being better than Jozy from what I've seen and heard about him.

rjw77
Post #9
Wednesday July 17, 2013 9:47pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 256
Do we even need 4 strikers? We have never started more than one basically all of JK's tenure. I feel like we would only need 3.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #10
Wednesday July 17, 2013 10:14pm

Joined Jul 2012
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Sorry can't predict Johannsson in anything until he makes his intentions known.

camparkinson
Post #11
Thursday July 18, 2013 12:35am

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 157
Original post from 2tone

Sorry can't predict Johannsson in anything until he makes his intentions known.


I completely agree, it all sounds good but until he's cap tied it means nothing.

I definitely see Dempsey being listed as a forward, he's certainly not a midfielder anymore and if US were to bring 4 to Brazil which I think is very likely then Dempsey would be a part of those 4.

richieJkulesaNY
Post #12
Thursday July 18, 2013 1:29pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 757
Jozy, and I dont care who else.

Agudelo should already be on this team, but Klinsmann and his circle have always had trouble identifying players based on the skillset needed for a position. Unfortunately, we are kind of weak at the striker position at the moment.

Not too sure why so many people are riding high on the Gomez wave. He does have a great work ethic, but guess what, so does everybody else. Its not a skill.

Wondo is a joke. Again, Belize and Cuba. And now Costa Rica. Not a coincidence.

Damarcus_Deuce_Altid
Detroit, MI
Post #13
Thursday July 18, 2013 8:38pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 9
This question about WC strikers is definitely related to formation. JK has settled on this 4-4-1-1 or 4-2-3-1 (whichever you prefer). It only makes sense to include Dempsey in the discussion if Donovan has no other position than the one that Dempsey currently holds. I think it makes most sense to try to put them on the field together (maybe Donovan on the right wing?). One caveat to that is that JK likes to have versatile guys who can play multiple positions. And either one of those guys could play that top role if it was ultimately necessary.

But putting that aside it would make sense to have two guys behind Jozy. I wonder if JK needs to think about two different roles and choose from there. One role is a guy who can replace Jozy (injury or suspension) and the other role as a guy who can come in provide a spark (late equalizer or winner). And it seems the candidates that make most sense are Boyd and Gomez. Boyd hasn't been very good in creating a spark, but maybe he needs more time to get going in a game. He might be put on the squad as a Jozy replacement. I think Gomez would be the likely "spark" guy. JK seems to like him a lot and he's been consistently part of WCQ. I don't really see him being left off the squad.

It will be very interesting to see what happens in WCQ especially if U.S. qualifies early (a win in the next game likely puts them safe for qualifying). I'm guessing there will be some experimenting with some of these guys. Wondolowski has shown a nose for goal, so I think he'll get a chance to prove he can do it in games against better comp. The wildcard will be E. Johnson. JK seems to prefer him at wing, but probably also likes him because he is one of those versatile guys and could play up top, as well. The fact that he can play both bodes well for him and means JK can have a backup for Jozy, who is also a backup at right wing. EJ can definitely provide a spark with his pace after defenders have tired playing 75 minutes or whatever. Again, if U.S. can qualify early, then we'll likely see how JK is thinking about these backups.


A big question for U.S. fans heading into the World Cup is surely on Jozy Altidore and just what is plaguing the young striker at Sunderland.
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