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nolefansandy
Post #1
Tuesday July 16, 2013 5:12pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 281
There is no doubt about it that Liga MX is a better league than MLS. I am not debating that. But after watching Mexico's home grown golden age burn and bust this year and how USMNT has been soaring that majorly has MLSers and players with MLS experience, got me thinking. Is it possible that MLS actually produces better players for Europe and for International play. I could be totally wrong and feel free to say I am. It just looks like that USMNT, Honduras, Haiti, T&T, and Panama and Costa Rica to an extent all have a MLS presence and they all have looked more threatening at times than Mexico whose team is purely domestic

dolcem
Post #2
Tuesday July 16, 2013 5:31pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,045
I think a big reason the MLS sends more players to Europe than Liga MX is that there are a lot of really quality Mexican players that stay in Liga MX because the salaries are so high.

But I do I think American players are more European in terms of their style than the Mexican ones are and might have an easier time adjusting to the game there.

The Mexican players that do go overseas, however, are a lot of more polished than the MLS ones. You get guys like Chicharito who go straight to ManU or even our own Jose Torres was going to be purchased by Valencia until he hurt his foot. The MLS isn't quite to the level where we're shipping over field players to elite teams and I don't think it will be until we improve the style of play (this is what really separates us from a league like the Liga MX).

The other thing is that it is tough to say that the recent failures of the Mexican NT reflect poorly on Liga MX. Before this year everyone was talking about how great the Liga MX is becoming (and it is improving a lot, it looks like the Mexicans are finally getting their act together regarding their youth system). With national teams, the most important thing is 'team spirit' or whatever you want to call it. They only get to practice a few weeks out of the year, there are a lot of technical problems with many teams (it's not like a club team where you can pick your players), and the competition is more spread out. The 'energy' the team has is incredibly important and can make the slight difference that can decide soccer games. It explains why teams like France and England have struggled in recent years (horrible team chemistry). Mexico often has a lot of problems like this. They've had scandals in recent years and some really bad locker room personalities (Vela, Dos Santos, among many). They're also way overconfident and the media situation is ridiculous (we're lucky in the US that our soccer media is pretty underdeveloped and we don't have to deal with too much unfounded criticism, although I hope that Strauss article wasn't any sort of precedent).

This is another reason we're really lucky to have Klinsmann. It's his forte. He took a German team that was at an historic low and constantly being crucified by the media into a team that was hungry and positive and played like it. He's an expert motivator, which means more than just motivating players to try hard: it's giving them confidence and helping build positive vibes among the players on and off the field. Sounds like a bunch of new age BS but from what I've seen in soccer (especially national teams) it seems to be true.

The fact that we've been playing well with MLS players recently doesn't necessarily bode well for the MLS as a whole, I think we're just on a hot streak right now playing above our level. But aside from our national team form it is obvious that the MLS is improving every year. Look at the young talent that is starting to come through the league: players like Villarreal, Yedlin, etc. I have a feeling that a lot of them won't turn out while some other relatively unheard of, hustle-type players will, but the fact is that the overall quality is improving a lot and we're going to continue to start seeing better and better players.
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Jzaval01
Post #3
Tuesday July 16, 2013 6:07pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,631
For now LIga MX is better and produces a higher talent for the soul fact that many south americans play in Mexico. This challenges the mexican youngsters. MLS has south american but there are more of Caribbean, central and American, mexican. With all that being said MLS has the potential to be bigger and better than Liga MX and we see very evident improvement every year. The fails of Mexico is more of the coach in my guess.

Jzaval01
Post #4
Tuesday July 16, 2013 6:38pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,631
Just think Yedlin from Sounders in U20 world cup and see that talent is being produced to eventually challenge Liga BBVA EPL SERIA A and BUNDESLIGA

tylercocinas
Post #5
Tuesday July 16, 2013 9:13pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 773
Original post from Jzaval01

Just think Yedlin from Sounders in U20 world cup and see that talent is being produced to eventually challenge Liga BBVA EPL SERIA A and BUNDESLIGA


Strong words. League-wide, much improvement needs to take place between now and "eventually."

skangles
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Post #6
Wednesday July 17, 2013 10:38am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,993
One of the strengths of both the MLS and Liga MX is the relative parity across the teams in each league. You see different teams rotating as the powerhouse squads in both leagues and it is difficult to stay on top which makes each league more competitive.


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