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Fraser31
Charleston, South Carolina
Post #61
Monday October 28, 2013 2:57am

Joined Sep 2012
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I think most of us do, but 2nd out of 2500 (I'm not sure of that number) some odd players is remarkable. Regardless of the level of competition. It clearly indicates he should be playing at a higher level. Whether that level is in line with the level our current players in his position is arguable, but even so I think he'd be an upgrade. At least in the near future. Granted first team minutes would be necessary to warrant a call up.

Bshredder
Post #62
Wednesday October 30, 2013 7:40pm

Joined Aug 2011
Total Posts: 1,459
Well, Green bailed on the USMNT camp

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #63
Wednesday October 30, 2013 7:40pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 4,950
Green has declined the opportunity to train with the USMNT in November.

Wouldn't get your hopes up about him leaving the German set-up anytime soon.

dolcem
Post #64
Wednesday October 30, 2013 7:55pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,036
Green rejected the USMNT camp call-up.

Looks like that ship has sailed.
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dunlopp9987
Post #65
Wednesday October 30, 2013 7:57pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 1,079
Anyone really surprised?
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EKneezy
Post #66
Wednesday October 30, 2013 8:03pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,797
not shocked at all. It was cool to think about it but he's been lighting it up for the reserve team and is moving up the ranks in the German youth teams.

oldkeeper
NY, NY
Post #67
Wednesday October 30, 2013 8:06pm

Joined Jun 2013
Total Posts: 165
That doesn't mean much. JK was never going to bring him to Brazil. It was just a friendly call from JK, kind of like a recruiting trip so we could get him on board for the 2018 squad. Green did the smart thing for his career by staying at Bayern to continue to train with his team mates and the first team. He needs exposure to them right now, not a camp that won't lead to any game time. We still have time to land him later. Granted, if Germany gives him a spot on the senior national team, he'd be a fool to take it. They obviously have a better chance of winning 2018 than the US does.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #68
Wednesday October 30, 2013 8:10pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,125
Don't count him out yet...he's still got quite a few years before he's in line to be called up to the senior squad...so unless he's cap tied relatively soon there's still hope.

We definitely shouldn't be trying to rely on his defection though, and if he does then he shouldn't automatically jump into the starting line up. If he really is that good then he won't have any issue showing his pedigree and will start soon enough.

Bshredder
Post #69
Wednesday October 30, 2013 8:35pm

Joined Aug 2011
Total Posts: 1,459
Can anyone make an argument why he shouldn't want to see as far as he can go with Germany?

1) He was raised in Germany and lived there since he was 2
2) He developed his entire game in Germany
3) He plays for the biggest club in Germany who are also Euro champs
4) He's actively playing for Germany's U19 team
5) Germany actually offers him a path to be a contender at the World Cup

Don't get me wrong. The U.S should definitely try to win guys like this but it shouldn't be expected to win players until all doors are closed with Germany (Like how it was done with Fabian Johnson).

Is it an uphill climb for him to make the full German national team? Of course. Most top prospects in Germany don't make it that far. So odds are eventually he will be left with only the US to play for. But why should he abandon that path now? Maybe he does make the German team?

navi8132
Post #70
Wednesday October 30, 2013 8:47pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,916
Just about being impatient about wing options for WC (which I am not even sure he can play an out and out winger)

Know Nothing
Post #71
Wednesday October 30, 2013 8:51pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 361
I think it will all come down to Green's patience. There are quite a few players ahead of him in the German setup and most are under 26 so they may be in his way the next WC cycle as well.

Lilshmike
Post #72
Wednesday October 30, 2013 9:03pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 504
Even if Green decided to play for us he would not be a realistic option, or even play for that matter, until AT THE EARLIEST the next gold cup. He would not go to the world cup and he would not play even if he was on the roster.

Whats the deal tho. Reports are saying that Klinsmann backed out. Is that the case, or did Green back out and get cold feet?

Lilshmike
Post #73
Wednesday October 30, 2013 9:13pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 504
In all honesty, I think it was probably Klinsmann who pulled the plug.

Like I have stated multiple times on this website, the higher ups in German football do not like the USA. It is political based from the World Wars and such. The older generation dislikes Americans because that is the culture they were brought up in, similar to old white people in the south hating black people.

Relating to Klinsmann, he is hated by those people for "Americanizing" himself and "turning his back" on his country. Those people are unfortunately the ones who run German football. They have their hands in the national team and their biggest clubs (like Bayern Munich).

Lilshmike
Post #74
Wednesday October 30, 2013 9:24pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 504
So, basically a full German kid who is playing for Bayern Munich and a stud for the German u-19 team who is showing a lot of promise, accepts a call up to train and potentially play for the USMNT under Jurgen Klinsmann.

How do you think that would help out that kids club career and progress as a professional? When all the people who hold his fate resent what he is doing?

Personally, I think not good. Chances are they may intentionally stall his development, not be willing to give him many opportunities, not play him, then offload him to some lower league team and make him an outcast.

Not only that, but he is young and there would probably be a lot of different voices speaking to him about how he shouldn't do that and how he was making the wrong decision. Pulling at him from every side. When youre a young kid, thats hard to deal with. It adds pressure and mentally takes you out of your game. When youre young and at one of the most important stages in your development as a player, this is the last thing that you need.

tylercocinas
Post #75
Wednesday October 30, 2013 9:31pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 739
This is really a nonissue. Green is going to go as far as he can with the German system then he'll likely switch to the United States. Pretty cut and dry.

He's 19, so if the US comes calling again in 3+ years and he isn't pleased with his progression then we'll be a much rosier option as opposed to not playing any international football during one's career.

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