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2tone
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Post #631
Wednesday November 29, 2017 12:44am

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Based on numbers Altidore is still better than Wood. Even this past year Altidore scored more goals for the Nats than Wood. Do I think Wood has more talent? Yes.

bjelks
Post #632
Wednesday November 29, 2017 1:23am

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In order to score goals for Nats, you have to be selected and get service.
Strikers can't control selection or the service they receive.
Natl team goals don't determine talent or who's better lol. That's a joke.
What strikers can control, is the quality of the goals they score and how hard they compete to play at the highest level.

Jozy doesn't have higher difficulty goals on film and sure is hell isnt competing at a higher level.

We need to tear down this system asap.
goalsense
2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #633
Wednesday November 29, 2017 3:33am

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Jozy has a better strike rate just saying. You can be angry about it all you want but he is still the best goal scorer in the USMNT right now.

bjelks
Post #634
Wednesday November 29, 2017 6:13am

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Strike rate doesn't matter when no oone else gets a chance to play. This is pure bs.
Anybody that's giving him credit for tap ins against low level competition isn't qualified to evaluate the game.
goalsense
dfw_fan
DfW
Post #635
Wednesday November 29, 2017 6:27am

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 934
Original post from bjelks

Strike rate doesn't matter when no oone else gets a chance to play. This is pure bs.
Anybody that's giving him credit for tap ins against low level competition isn't qualified to evaluate the game.


+1000

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #636
Wednesday November 29, 2017 6:23pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 9,334
Original post from bjelks

Strike rate doesn't matter when no oone else gets a chance to play. This is pure bs.
Anybody that's giving him credit for tap ins against low level competition isn't qualified to evaluate the game.


Wood played plenty. No need to get nasty. Jozy had a better strike rate this past year than Wood did. Darn statistics.

Rey Regicide
Post #637
Wednesday November 29, 2017 7:58pm

Joined Sep 2013
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Do you think there's a tremendous disparity between Wood's game and Altidore's?

Is AZ Alkmaar, Villareal, Sunderland etc all bereft of evaluative prowess?

I most definitely get frustrated with Altidore. But if he's not our best striker, the criteria is not being based on club performances.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #638
Wednesday November 29, 2017 10:22pm

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People hate on Altidore because he didn't meet their lofty expectations of him. He is what he is. He has very good performances and he has bad performances. But he is still in the top 2 of current strikers for the USMNT. That may change in the coming years, but other players need to show that they deserve to beat him out as a starter.

goods
Post #639
Thursday November 30, 2017 12:04am

Joined Mar 2014
Total Posts: 457
Honest question about Wood. When was the last time he had a game for the USMNT or club where it was said he was dominate? Maybe the Panama game but outside of that it has been a while. Even this past Saturday the commentators said he needs to do more with his chances. He needs Hamburg to stick to a 2 forward system or he will have lost his spot.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #640
Thursday November 30, 2017 12:30am

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Total Posts: 9,334
Original post from goods

Honest question about Wood. When was the last time he had a game for the USMNT or club where it was said he was dominate? Maybe the Panama game but outside of that it has been a while. Even this past Saturday the commentators said he needs to do more with his chances. He needs Hamburg to stick to a 2 forward system or he will have lost his spot.


Youre right it's been awhile. And yes he needs to be better with his chances for both club and country. In each of his two seasons with Hamburg he should have already scored more goals than he has at this point both seasons.

cudevil
Post #641
Friday December 1, 2017 8:28pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 548
Original post from goods

Honest question about Wood. When was the last time he had a game for the USMNT or club where it was said he was dominate? Maybe the Panama game but outside of that it has been a while. Even this past Saturday the commentators said he needs to do more with his chances. He needs Hamburg to stick to a 2 forward system or he will have lost his spot.


I personally don't think out and out striker's will dominate many games. They just don't get too many touches. I thought Wood looked pretty good last Saturday against Hoffenheim, even if he did miss a chance. Obviously, he needs to put something in the net, but as long as he's active, putting himself in good positions, holding up play well, the goals will come.

Jzaval01
Post #642
Friday December 1, 2017 9:39pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,262
I think people confuse the fact that Jozy has a better strike rate vs Wood
vs
He is better than wood.
The stats clearly show Jozy atm has a better strike rate.

Anyways that doesnt mean he is BETTER that will come down to opinion. I think and rate wood higher. But he needs to get backup with hes recent struggle. Still think he is better suited for premier league rather than Bundesliga due to his strengths. I think Jozy would have been better suited for Bundesliga.

goods
Post #643
Friday December 1, 2017 11:35pm

Joined Mar 2014
Total Posts: 457
Problem with both Wood and Jozy is that they are the same player. Need early involvement or they can disapear. Not always but both have a tenedacy to that. Also, both play better with a speed guy next to them. Altidore with Davies and Wood with Morris are perfect examples. Perhaps Green is the key more speed and technical ability to allow Wood or Jozy to muscle through goals. I think Jozy and Wood are both exposed when they do not have that speed to partner with.

Dave
Post #644
Friday December 1, 2017 11:59pm

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 799
Original post from goods

Problem with both Wood and Jozy is that they are the same player. Need early involvement or they can disapear. Not always but both have a tenedacy to that. Also, both play better with a speed guy next to them. Altidore with Davies and Wood with Morris are perfect examples. Perhaps Green is the key more speed and technical ability to allow Wood or Jozy to muscle through goals. I think Jozy and Wood are both exposed when they do not have that speed to partner with.


I actually disagree that Wood & Jozy are the same type of striker. Jozy truly needs a strike partner in order to have an impact. Jozy tends to drop deeper to find the game & link with a 2nd striker/attacker. On the other hand Wood tends to stay higher up the field and roam along the defensive line. Wood is also more inclined to high press the opposition, while Jozy is more inclined to drop off and try to deny passing lanes.

For me Jozy is a guy who has to play in a 2 (or 3) striker formation, while Wood can play in a single striker formation if he's not asked to produce 100% of the offence. At the club level Wood doesn't have the supporting cast....but going forward, with the USMNT, he'll have some quality players to help feed him (Pulisic, Saief, Green, Gooch) and take some of the attacking responsibility off his shoulders.

I don't expect that Wood is going to put up massive numbers (goals), as I think the attacking Mids are actually going to provide more goals than the strikers in the 2022 cycle.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #645
Saturday December 2, 2017 1:38am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 9,334
Morris will be back in the equation at some point.

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