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Bshredder
Post #1
Wednesday June 27, 2012 4:19pm

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Wall Street Journal thinks so. They have report the league is looking at a site in Queens.

It'll probably work. It's a completely different market from the Red Bulls.

chastro
Charlotte, North Carolina
Post #2
Wednesday June 27, 2012 4:54pm

Joined Aug 2011
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Such as stupid idea. much better markets in the US than there to deserve a team. St Louis for starters.
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Bshredder
Post #3
Wednesday June 27, 2012 5:04pm

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The way the Tri-State area is, the outer-boroughs and LI is another universe from NJ where the Bulls are.

It would work much, much better than LA.

But anything is better than Miami and Atlanta which are horrible markets for all pro sports.

richieJkulesaNY
Post #4
Wednesday June 27, 2012 5:21pm

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Much better markets in the US!? NYC is the greatest, and highest populated, city in the world and generally speaking, does not have a team in it. The reason NYRB doesnt do as well as everybody thinks it should is because Manhattan, Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, & LI natives dont have a sense of territorial attachment to the team. Soccer clubs in Europe & SA represent much more than just the players they put on the field. Having to travel in excess of 2 hours to get to a soccer game is a huge hassle. Plus, if you know New Yorkers, we do not like NJ. A team in metropolitan area will create a huge rivalry and I guarantee it'll pull more NJ fans out of the woods to help support the Red Bulls. IMO, NYC is a no-brainer for the 20th franchise.

Footyskillz
Arlington, VA
Post #5
Thursday June 28, 2012 3:35am

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I agree with richie. My only hope is that MLS puts as much effort into helping DC and New England do the same.
USMNT, Porto, and Bundesliga fanatic - T: @gouldinho_j
3mph
Post #6
Friday June 29, 2012 5:34am

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Many, many people who have been interviewed and asked about a second team in NYC think it's an amazing idea. For those of you who don't know, going from Queens to NJ takes a whole day of trains and moving around. It's not like driving from Chicago to Bridgeview (which most people don't do anyway, but that's besides the point). I think a second team in NYC proper would be great for MLS and could, potentially, develop into a REAL derby...

Footyskillz
Arlington, VA
Post #7
Friday June 29, 2012 4:44pm

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Seattle/Portland is pretty real. But yes, I agree. How fast can they get this up if it goes through? 2014?
USMNT, Porto, and Bundesliga fanatic - T: @gouldinho_j
3mph
Post #8
Sunday July 1, 2012 8:59am

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It's real enough (I'm apart of it to be honest), but it's not a "true" derby in every sense. It's still four-ish hours from Seattle to Portland, the TV markets are different, different states, et cetera. If the second team came to NYC, they'd compete for the same fans, same TV time, the works.

I think 2014 is a bit of a long shot for NYC. While possible, a deal would have to close sometime in the next month to be able to start construction and marketing for everything. Houston's stadium took less time to build than Kansas City's because of the weather, Portland took about as long as Houston's, again because of the climate. NYC you can only do work 8-9 months without ruining something, so the foundation would have to be set up before sitting out the winter months.

What should probably take place, and I do mean should, is the expansion craze should halt for a minute. 2009 saw Seattle, 2010 was Philly, 2011 Portland and Vancouver and 2012 Montreal. The dust needs to settle on the current format for a second before adding another. 2015, I think, would be ideal for everything. Set up a foundation this winter, begin construction in the spring (remember NYC isn't exactly an easily accessible place, the same reason they're running into issues in DC...), begin marketing and player signings through the winter (January transfer for 1-2 DPs, yadda yadda...), hit it hard in the summer of 2014, finish construction, be ready for MLS First Kick (host LA or something) in 2015.

Knowing MLS, they'll blow through everything, get a team by next spring, and render my opinions worthless. Alas.

Footyskillz
Arlington, VA
Post #9
Monday July 2, 2012 12:03am

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Total Posts: 291
Haha what if their first game was against Red Bulls?
USMNT, Porto, and Bundesliga fanatic - T: @gouldinho_j
3mph
Post #10
Monday July 2, 2012 4:16am

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 7
It would depend on the unbalanced vs balanced schedule...It seems once the 20th team comes in they're going to go back to a balanced, but who the hell knows. Why they don't make the whole thing one damn table is beyond me.

That said, I doubt they'd put a rivalry match at the beginning of the season. First Kick is about putting watchable teams together, like Seattle and Red Bulls to start SSFC in MLS. I think they'd save the first real derby for something like two weeks before the WC break in 2014 or sometime similar (late May-ish) to give the teams time to develop story lines.

Footyskillz
Arlington, VA
Post #11
Monday July 2, 2012 2:55pm

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Good point. And I agree, I would like to see one table. Not a big fan of East/West and I don't care for the All-Star game.

Anyways, I hope to see this happen. Good for the league overall.
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Bshredder
Post #12
Monday August 13, 2012 2:36pm

Joined Aug 2011
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NY Post reports that a deal for a stadium near Citi Field and the USTA center is close.

Bshredder
Post #13
Tuesday January 15, 2013 10:47pm

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I have no idea which organization was crazier. The old Cosmos or the new Cosmos

The new one wants to build a new $400 million stadium next to Belmont racetrack and it doesn't even seem set that they have any backing with MLS who want to be in Queens near the USTA center and Citi Field. The Queens option is by far and away better.

So what are the Cosmos doing?

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/soccerblog/cosm...

Red
NY
Post #14
Tuesday January 15, 2013 10:54pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 417
No question Bshredder, the Queens option is better. This seems so crazy, no way they build a stadium that would hold 25k for non-MLS right??

It seems they are going their own way and looking at Elmont(near Belmont race track.) I thought it was just a back up plan but they seem dead serious about it.

I can't wait for this to be sorted out.

Footyskillz
Arlington, VA
Post #15
Wednesday January 16, 2013 4:22pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 291
The drawn up plans for the Cosmos stadium are amazing. If that does happen no doubt it will be a draw for National team games.

http://http://www.newcosmosstadium.com/galler...
USMNT, Porto, and Bundesliga fanatic - T: @gouldinho_j
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