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2tone
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Post #61
Saturday May 10, 2014 4:31pm

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Original post from navi8132

http://www.tz.de/sport/fc-bayern/wird-bayern-...

Yep, confirmed. Still injured from his nerf ball fall.

I am calling it now, he is going to be INJURY PRONE.


Highly doubtful he will be injury prone. Good god someone already has it out for a young player.

I believe you trash on almost every young player. Gatt, Gyau, Green, Shea, Yedlin, Brooks, Agudelo. What gives?

navi8132
New York
Post #62
Saturday May 10, 2014 4:58pm

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I am trying to be realistic. None of those players looks to be a future USMNT starter. It will be players no one is expecting. As has been the case in virtually every cycle for the USMNT. Most of the top prospects in the 18-21 range don't pan out.

I maintain I think Green will be an injury prone player- If I do end up being correct about that, would you admit I was right or would you say I was lucky?

Mojofc
Post #63
Saturday May 10, 2014 5:10pm

Joined Jan 2013
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Original post from navi8132

I am trying to be realistic. None of those players looks to be a future USMNT starter. It will be players no one is expecting. As has been the case in virtually every cycle for the USMNT. Most of the top prospects in the 18-21 range don't pan out.

I maintain I think Green will be an injury prone player- If I do end up being correct about that, would you admit I was right or would you say I was lucky?


Odds of most youth prospects panning out, most would agree they are slim in terms of being usmnt starters.

In terms of Green being injury prone because of one shoulder issue is absolutely absurd. You continuing to spread the notion on these boards is a joke.
Rain, rain, go away Come again another day - USMNT, MUFC
navi8132
New York
Post #64
Saturday May 10, 2014 5:14pm

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You don't agree fine. I don't want to fight.

Chrisou101
Post #65
Saturday May 10, 2014 6:21pm

Joined Nov 2012
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yeah I rolled my ankle 2 weeks ago because i was in the wrong position, does that make me injury prone?

navi8132
New York
Post #66
Saturday May 10, 2014 7:13pm

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Probability. I never said definite. Rolling ankle is different than falling to the floor in slow motion hitting your shoulder.

TheTruth
Post #67
Saturday May 10, 2014 7:15pm

Joined Dec 2013
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I'll try to help out Navi here. . . Green looks delicate to me. Skinny. Now, I grew 1 inch and put on 25 pounds in the year after my 18th birthday (as in, a "good" 25 pounds). Maybe Green does the same. Maybe not. I guess the first question is, how tall was this dude 2 years ago? If he's the same height as he is today that's not a good sign.

For comparison, I always thought Beas appeared delicate. Maybe, the main reason why he didn't last too long in England & Scotland. Nevertheless, he's turned out to be a great pro IMO (I've always been a huge fan of his; I know not everyone on this board is.). And, he hasn't been injury prone as far as I know. So, just cause you're slight doesn't make you injury prone, but it certainly makes you more likely to be injury prone.

Mojofc
Post #68
Saturday May 10, 2014 7:23pm

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Original post from navi8132

Probability. I never said definite. Rolling ankle is different than falling to the floor in slow motion hitting your shoulder.


So a shoulder injury at a young age is reason enough to believe that for the next 10 years he will be injury prone?

I simply don't understand the negativity or reasoning behind making such a statement on a pro-USA board. I'm not saying we should avoid speaking truth or avoid being honest with ourselves but this is over the top and rather pointless. Why try and give someone an 'injury prone' label over something that happens to many soccer pro's at some point in their career?
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navi8132
New York
Post #69
Saturday May 10, 2014 7:26pm

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I never once brought up his build. I brought up the fact that you can slowly fall to the floor, mildly touch tap your shoulder and get injured for weeks. The shoulder is something that rarely gets injured in soccer falls -- soccer players are falling to the floor at full sprint regularly, sometimes intentionally diving-- and shoulder injuries are rare even with that regularity of falling. Who was the last player you heard injure their shoulder in soccer? Give me a name and general date? It's rare.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #70
Saturday May 10, 2014 7:48pm

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I am just not worried about him being injury prone because he put his arm in a position when he fell that dislocated his shoulder.

It happened to me. I went up for a header and landed awkwardly with my arm extended when I hit the ground which caused my shoulder to pop out and back in. To this day I don't have the greatest range of motion in my shoulder because I never went to the doctor for it to be looked at properly.

I bet shoulder tweaks and shoulders popping in and out of the socket happens more often than what any of us think.

joey11
Post #71
Saturday May 10, 2014 8:03pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 284
Original post from navi8132

I never once brought up his build. I brought up the fact that you can slowly fall to the floor, mildly touch tap your shoulder and get injured for weeks. The shoulder is something that rarely gets injured in soccer falls - soccer players are falling to the floor at full sprint regularly, sometimes intentionally diving- and shoulder injuries are rare even with that regularity of falling. Who was the last player you heard injure their shoulder in soccer? Give me a name and general date? It's rare.
a litle study I found on internet. http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s001...

chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #72
Saturday May 10, 2014 11:29pm

Joined May 2013
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I don't think Green is injury prone at all, that was just a bum luck fall, but he's young and hasn't physically matured yet. I don't think JK would subject him to the physical punishment of WC comp. He's not strong enough to defend himself from getting hurt. I don't think he goes to the WC at all...I think his injury diffuses the situation.

stone88
Post #73
Sunday May 11, 2014 12:18am

Joined Aug 2012
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Who cares, its just the shoulder. Injuries to the legs are what make me worry.

433
Post #74
Sunday May 11, 2014 12:41am

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Green, Yedlin, Brooks, and Agudelo all could be starters for the USMNT at some point.

As for Green being slight, what kind of build would you say players like Giggs, Silva, Messi, Iniesta, Modric, Neymar, etc. have? I'm not saying he - or any of the US players -will ever reach that level, but what is true is that you don't have to be built like Yaya Toure, Hulk, or the brazilian Ronaldo to have a long and successful career).

In fact, big players like that can be just as injury prone as small, slight, quick ones.

munns5986
Post #75
Sunday May 11, 2014 1:10am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 277
Original post from 433

Green, Yedlin, Brooks, and Agudelo all could be starters for the USMNT at some point.

As for Green being slight, what kind of build would you say players like Giggs, Silva, Messi, Iniesta, Modric, Neymar, etc. have? I'm not saying he - or any of the US players -will ever reach that level, but what is true is that you don't have to be built like Yaya Toure, Hulk, or the brazilian Ronaldo to have a long and successful career).

In fact, big players like that can be just as injury prone as small, slight, quick ones.


But this thought process doesn't help his argument.

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