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recycledhumans
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Post #1
Monday June 24, 2013 10:01pm

Joined Nov 2012
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So I watched the FCD-SKC match on Saturday and was starting to get depressed about what looked like an inevitable outcome, when the darnedest thing happened...

Andrew Jacobson gets sandwiched between two SKC players and catches an elbow, so he hits the deck and grabs his noggin. Play is immediately stopped for the foul and the ref jogs over to check on the player. Shortly after arriving, someone kicks the ball toward the ref, but not particularly close to Jacobson. While running back to assume his defensive position, CJ gets a touch to the ball that redirects it straight into the head of the still down Jacobson. Whether it was intentional or not is not clear, and I suppose that the red card was given for unsportsman-like conduct or perhaps endangering a player, an argument could even be made that the move was seen as a retaliation and the red card was in accordance to the general "if you react, you're off" rule...

I'd like to get some fan feedback on this decision, because while I will admit that I was happy to see a player sent off giving us a chance back into the game, I will also admit that I think it was a soft red (kinda like the penalty that opened the scoring...)

stone88
Post #2
Monday June 24, 2013 10:13pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 854
I dunno. Sapong gets a Red, but Beckham got yellow for blatantly lobbing a ball at a injured player last year against San Jose (but it's David Beckham!!). I don't really care, Sapong has been very dissappointing this year.

coverby
Post #3
Monday June 24, 2013 10:16pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 79
But Beckhams shot cured the SJ player of his injury. You saw how fast that player got right up right?

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #4
Monday June 24, 2013 10:20pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Agreed on the Sapong being disappointing, I really expected KC to be doing better at this point in the season.

I think the whole thing raises a larger point about determining what sort of conduct is acceptable between players on the pitch. I remember the broadcasters were discussing the "taking a touch on that ball as it came toward the ref" as being the cause of the red, but I contend that if his touch was simply to trap the ball, he wouldn't have even been looked at sideways.

I'm inclined to believe that it was a time wasting measure and he was trying to get the ball to the touchline, and that he accidentally hit Jacobson, but in an age when head trauma is such a big deal, you have to make sure that you put your foot down and make it known that, accidental or not, that sort of behavior isn't going to fly.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #5
Monday June 24, 2013 10:22pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from coverby

But Beckhams shot cured the SJ player of his injury. You saw how fast that player got right up right?


awesome point, maybe we should institute a "kick him to see if he's really injured" rule instead of automatically bringing out the stretchers...

stone88
Post #6
Monday June 24, 2013 10:24pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 854
Original post from coverby

But Beckhams shot cured the SJ player of his injury. You saw how fast that player got right up right?


LOL!

CBoyd3142
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Post #7
Tuesday June 25, 2013 4:03pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 320
I think he deserved the red - maybe it wasn't intentional, but it really doesn't matter. Point is the ball hit the downed player in the head - I can understand the ref's decision there.

I do remember Beckham's deal and how funny it was that the SJ player bounced up immediately. Nothing irritates me more than seeing a player go down clutching his head, only to look at the ref and see the "play on" motion and hop right back up to complain, miraculously no longer hurt. Something I saw from Spain the last few games - dudes clutching their heads when no contact was made. I think it was against Uruguay when Alba went down grabbing the back of his head when Lugano's hand brushed up against his shoulder. Darke let him have it for that. "Embarrassing" - love it.

Sorry for the rant - I'm a huge anti-flop supporter.
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