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Scout92
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Post #31
Friday June 21, 2013 9:04pm

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Stupid thread...

Mojofc
Post #32
Friday June 21, 2013 9:11pm

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Original post from Scout92

Stupid thread...


'Stupid thread...' yet still posts to keep it alive even though the last few posts said the same thing.

Also obviously hasn't read much since post 1, the thread has changed more to 'do you think possession style football is good for the sport'.
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Post #33
Friday June 21, 2013 9:54pm

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Original post from Mojofc

the thread has changed more to 'do you think possession style football is good for the sport'.


That's a much more intelligent question than asking about imposing time limits on possession, and that will be the question that I answer.

Possession football is the one way to measure a team's dominance of a game if goals are taken out of the equation. More than any other indicator (again, excluding goals), possession stats will tell the story of the match.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about seeing a very high tempo match, which chances coming in thick and fast, each team going at the other full throttle. But at the same time, you can't truly expect teams to play that way day in and day out, fatigue and injuries won't allow it over the long season. The best way to make sure that your players won't have too much recovery time will be to have them "take it easy" during the game...and how can you manage to do that and still win? That's right, possession!

Nothing is more boring than watching a ball being passed from one side of the back line to the other with little or no forward mobility...so I can understand the sentiment behind the initial question.

However, possession style football is required for the cheers of "Ole!" so I think that puts everything in perspective

Mojofc
Post #34
Friday June 21, 2013 10:07pm

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Original post from recycledhumans

That's a much more intelligent question than asking about imposing time limits on possession, and that will be the question that I answer.

Possession football is the one way to measure a team's dominance of a game if goals are taken out of the equation. More than any other indicator (again, excluding goals), possession stats will tell the story of the match.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about seeing a very high tempo match, which chances coming in thick and fast, each team going at the other full throttle. But at the same time, you can't truly expect teams to play that way day in and day out, fatigue and injuries won't allow it over the long season. The best way to make sure that your players won't have too much recovery time will be to have them "take it easy" during the game...and how can you manage to do that and still win? That's right, possession!

Nothing is more boring than watching a ball being passed from one side of the back line to the other with little or no forward mobility...so I can understand the sentiment behind the initial question.

However, possession style football is required for the cheers of "Ole!" so I think that puts everything in perspective


True true, possession in general is a must and a must for most teams to win unless a solid counterattack occurs and is taken advantage of such as USA vs Spain in the Confed Cup.

I'll repost what I posted earlier in the thread..

I've said it on here before I believe. I appreciate the talent of Spain & Barcelona but I do not enjoy their style at all. It is boring to me.

I realize it's due to their talent and technical ability but watching them pass the ball all game puts me to sleep and makes me feel for the other team. I always want the ther team to win when playing these teams.

Spain and Barcelona also complain about the other teams not willing to just play an attacking style against them, but I don't consider their style attacking even if they do score loads of goals per game.

They begin the game with possession, the other team sometimes begins by pressing, Spain sees this and decides they are going to wear you out mentally and physically for trying against them so they pass the ball backwards forwards backwards forwards until you give up pressing because its pointless to do so. You then are forced to play bunker defense out of necessity not by choice.

A corner kick, they keep possession and pass it back half the time.. It kills me to watch.

Their style.. When it doubt, start 10 inner mids.

Once other teams catch up to this style, I think it will be bad for the sport. Less people will attend games, less people will enjoy the games, it won't gain new fans, etc.

You could hear Brazilians booing the Spanish team during their game against Uruguay. I echo that.
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Post #35
Friday June 21, 2013 10:25pm

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I can't say that I completely agree with that...

While I can agree with the sentiment, the chess player in me loves to watch a Barcelona (or Arsenal when they still had Cesc) attack little by little moving forward, seeing how passes over here creates space over there, and off the ball run over there opens up space over here, etc. It's fascinating to see how a few key passes some 10 or so passes before a shot is taken can really set up the whole scene.

But the sports fan in me hates to watch it go from CB to CB to wingback to CDM to CB to CB to wingback to CDM to CB to Cb...it's like the damn "Song That Never Ends" so I can agree with that aspect of your statement.

I guess the whole thing really boils down to this: Would you rather have a nonstop attacking slugfest where chances aren't very common and goals are scarce or would you rather watch a studied build-up that, after what feels like 30 unnecessary passes, will almost always create a chance at goal?

richieJkulesaNY
Post #36
Friday June 21, 2013 11:42pm

Joined Jun 2012
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Original post from 2tone

And here is a serious question. Is it for the better of the game to have one team dominate another team by just possession soccer with no attack like Spain and Barcelona do to some extent? Spain gets booed a lot for just playing possession soccer. Now it's a good tactic on their part, but is it good for the game? Is it not better from a fan stand point to actually have some competitive balance in a game? the best game so far at the Confed cup was Italy V Japan because A. it was a competitively balanced game an B. because both teams attacked instead of just playing possession soccer for the sake of possession soccer i.e. Spain.

I know a ton of soccer aficionados that really do not like Spain's possession oriented style. They think it's boring, and a lot of the times quit watching the game because of it.


Haha see you don't get it. Spain doesn't possess the ball for the sake of it. Teams bunker down against them so they're forced to knock it around. Don't think for one second that each pass they make isnt made to attack. They knock the ball around the back to stretch the defense.

Why don't you get upset with the teams that bunker against them? Maybe FIFA should add a defensive 3 second rule.

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