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kicksNgiggles10
Birmingham
Post #16
Friday June 21, 2013 3:56pm

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Oh I like this! Lets have time outs and cheerleaders too! :l
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USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #17
Friday June 21, 2013 4:00pm

Joined Nov 2012
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No thanks.....the game is good where it's at. Taking a quote from one of my favorite coaches of all-time "my job is to score points, their job is to stop me"....American football but still carries over.

Mojofc
Post #18
Friday June 21, 2013 4:01pm

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I've said it on here before I believe. I appreciate the talent of Spain & Barcelona but I do not enjoy their style at all. It is boring to me.

I realize it's due to their talent and technical ability but watching them pass the ball all game puts me to sleep and makes me feel for the other team. I always want the ther team to win when playing these teams.

Spain and Barcelona also complain about the other teams not willing to just play an attacking style against them, but I don't consider their style attacking even if they do score loads of goals per game.

They begin the game with possession, the other team sometimes begins by pressing, Spain sees this and decides they are going to wear you out mentally and physically for trying against them so they pass the ball backwards forwards backwards forwards until you give up pressing because its pointless to do so. You then are forced to play bunker defense out of necessity not by choice.

A corner kick, they keep possession and pass it back half the time.. It kills me to watch.

And conclusion.. I don't want a change like this to the sport at this point in time, don't think it's necessary when only 2 team truly has the potential to do what they do. It's just they are that good at this tactic. Their pressing and technical ability front to back is unreal.

Their style.. When it doubt, start 10 inner mids.

Once other teams catch up to this style, I think it will be bad for the sport.
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jtsccr12
Post #19
Friday June 21, 2013 4:13pm

Joined May 2013
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Nope! There is no reason for a time of possession clock or shot clock. It would take away from the flow of the game, and reward weaker teams by forcing the better team to chunk the ball in after just a few seconds. If Americans, or anyone, want to do this with indoor soccer it would make sense, but not outdoor. Besides, good luck hitting the rim/ post to restart the clock.

In all of the world I can only think of 2 teams that are able to exploit this area of the game on a usual basis. The National team of Spain, and the club team of Barca. Real Madrid doesn't even play this way. There is no reason to institute a rule due to Spain, even if they are the best team in the world right now.

Just think if CONCACAF had this rule. Might not affect the hex, but it would definitely impact the US and Mexico in the first round they play. Gives the weaker team far more opportunities and the stronger team less opportunity to break down and tire the other team out.

CBoyd3142
Probably far from where you are...
Post #20
Friday June 21, 2013 4:14pm

Joined Aug 2012
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Agreed - you can't debate the effectiveness of their play but it is painful to watch most of the time. It's all perspective-based....if the US were doing and were #1 in the world, I probably wouldn't complain too much myself.
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leeterofcola
Post #21
Friday June 21, 2013 5:09pm

Joined Mar 2013
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Sorry guys, but this discussion is a bunch of nonsense.

kicksNgiggles10
Birmingham
Post #22
Friday June 21, 2013 5:16pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 331
Original post from kicksNgiggles10

Oh I like this! Lets have time outs and cheerleaders too! :l

I forgot mascots too! 2 more refs on the pitch as well. And how about a 3 second type rule? Only 5 seconds per player inside the offensive 6yd box. Also goals made outside the 18 should count for two points.
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2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #23
Friday June 21, 2013 5:56pm

Joined Jul 2012
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Original post from kicksNgiggles10

I forgot mascots too! 2 more refs on the pitch as well. And how about a 3 second type rule? Only 5 seconds per player inside the offensive 6yd box. Also goals made outside the 18 should count for two points.


Whats funny is plenty of European teams have cheerleaders and mascots. Actually teams all over the world have cheerleaders and mascots.

richieJkulesaNY
Post #24
Friday June 21, 2013 5:57pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 922
Original post from 2tone

Ah yes the you don't fully understand the game routine.

Huh I never said I didn't enjoy the players technical ability. I said I don't enjoy their possession style soccer. yes when Spain actually attacks with some flair it's fun to watch, but when Spain or Barcelona are passing it around for 30 minutes without producing much in the way of attack it's boring.

Why is it such a taboo to discuss maybe changing some things about how soccer is played?

This is called non serious discussion.


Hey dude, you asked the question. Would you rather me just say no?

Non-serious questions will get some non-serious answers.

This rule would have a huge impact on the game, and definitely not for the better.

Mojofc
Post #25
Friday June 21, 2013 6:09pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 670
Original post from richieJkulesaNY

Hey dude, you asked the question. Would you rather me just say no?

Non-serious questions will get some non-serious answers.

This rule would have a huge impact on the game, and definitely not for the better.


Better question, if all teams begin this style of 'if the other team doesn't touch the ball, we can't lose' technique, will it be good for the sport?

I think this is more of less what he's getting at. Less people will attend games, less people will enjoy the games, it won't gain new fans, etc.

I think my post best analyzes their style (see above 4-5 posts), and while I don't think most teams can play this way, new billionaire teams can begin to and will learn this style over time.

You could hear Brazilians booing the Spanish team during their game against Uruguay. I echo that.
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kicksNgiggles10
Birmingham
Post #26
Friday June 21, 2013 6:12pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 331
Original post from 2tone

Whats funny is plenty of European teams have cheerleaders and mascots. Actually teams all over the world have cheerleaders and mascots.

I know. My point was to sarcasticly over Americanize the game.
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kicksNgiggles10
Birmingham
Post #27
Friday June 21, 2013 6:19pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 331
This whole thing is a joke. One team is better than most all the rest so lets make a rule so the game can be "fair" and the big bad team can stop bullying the lesser teams. Personally I sometimes become bored watching Spain, sure. Does that mean there should be a rule against their style of play because the dominate so well? That is absurd.
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2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #28
Friday June 21, 2013 6:20pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 4,847
Original post from richieJkulesaNY

Hey dude, you asked the question. Would you rather me just say no?

Non-serious questions will get some non-serious answers.

This rule would have a huge impact on the game, and definitely not for the better.


And here is a serious question. Is it for the better of the game to have one team dominate another team by just possession soccer with no attack like Spain and Barcelona do to some extent? Spain gets booed a lot for just playing possession soccer. Now it's a good tactic on their part, but is it good for the game? Is it not better from a fan stand point to actually have some competitive balance in a game? the best game so far at the Confed cup was Italy V Japan because A. it was a competitively balanced game an B. because both teams attacked instead of just playing possession soccer for the sake of possession soccer i.e. Spain.

I know a ton of soccer aficionados that really do not like Spain's possession oriented style. They think it's boring, and a lot of the times quit watching the game because of it.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #29
Friday June 21, 2013 6:41pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,160
Original post from 2tone

And here is a serious question. Is it for the better of the game to have one team dominate another team by just possession soccer with no attack like Spain and Barcelona do to some extent? Spain gets booed a lot for just playing possession soccer. Now it's a good tactic on their part, but is it good for the game? Is it not better from a fan stand point to actually have some competitive balance in a game? the best game so far at the Confed cup was Italy V Japan because A. it was a competitively balanced game an B. because both teams attacked instead of just playing possession soccer for the sake of possession soccer i.e. Spain.

I know a ton of soccer aficionados that really do not like Spain's possession oriented style. They think it's boring, and a lot of the times quit watching the game because of it.


I agree to a certain extent. That's why my team plays the pass and move, of course adapted by my love of Liverpool. As I always say, the difference between tiki-taka vs pass and move is passing without purpose vs passing with purpose.

JFORD
Post #30
Friday June 21, 2013 8:55pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 128
I do not mean to be disrespectful, but this is one of the most idiotic proposals I've ever seen.

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