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stone88
Post #211
Wednesday June 26, 2013 6:14am

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Original post from 2tone

Not hyping him just stating the facts about those two games. I understand the sensitivity about hyping players, but in no way do the US players get hyped as much as other promising players in Europe or South America.


Totally agree, but the fact is that they have a bit more leeway to hype young players because of the nature of having the best domestic leagues in the world. They get to see those players day in and day out play up against the best young prospects and players from all over the world. It is genuinely easier to tell a boom from a bust.

But you are right he did totally torch that French LB for a majority of the second half.

navi8132
Post #212
Wednesday June 26, 2013 2:26pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 2,013
Brian,
Your article, Villareal seemed to be hinting that their gameplan may very well be a repeat of the Spain gameplan. That makes me VERY uneasy, it was unbelievably reckless (even if Torre were not playing). Additionally, given Ghana's height being comparable to our own, are we going to see a Stanko Oneil pairing finally?

platter
Jacksonville, FL
Post #213
Wednesday June 26, 2013 3:54pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 87
Yedlin has the tools to be a fantastic RB, no doubt about it. Athletic, Skilled, Strong.

In the short term I'm more excited by Gil's development, because he can be that Middle attacking midfielder our Senior team obviously lacks. Not saying I'd put him at that level right now, but hopefully in a year he'll be ready to make that leap.

One other player stood out in the second half of the France game, Mario Rodriguez. When he got aggressive and ran at people it caused France great difficulty. His height is more than adequate and should fill out in the coming years. Will definitely keep an eye on his development going forward.

Know Nothing
Post #214
Wednesday June 26, 2013 4:15pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 377
Original post from platter

Yedlin has the tools to be a fantastic RB, no doubt about it. Athletic, Skilled, Strong.

In the short term I'm more excited by Gil's development, because he can be that Middle attacking midfielder our Senior team obviously lacks. Not saying I'd put him at that level right now, but hopefully in a year he'll be ready to make that leap.

One other player stood out in the second half of the France game, Mario Rodriguez. When he got aggressive and ran at people it caused France great difficulty. His height is more than adequate and should fill out in the coming years. Will definitely keep an eye on his development going forward.


I agree...but Gil is still developing and hopefully this success will not go to his head. He is very comparable to and may well be better than Freddy Adu at his age...and going forward that is the cautionary tale.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #215
Wednesday June 26, 2013 4:56pm

Joined Jul 2012
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Gil has a lot of talent, but what I did not like about his game against France is the way he faded considerably in the second half. Also he struggles against more physically imposing Cm's. Things that will change with further development.

Rodriguez is very intriguing. He has the height at 6'0", the speed, and the dribbling skills that will correlate well to the senior level. What he lacks is good decision making in the final 1/3. Too many times during the qualifying tournament he would not make the right pass, and against France I counted at least 3 times where he should have passed the ball to an open teammate. I like his aggressive play, but he needs to learn to pass the ball when it is clearly the better option. All things he will learn as he continues to develop.

And all things considered I think Yedlin is closer to a senior USMNT call-up versus Gil.

richieJkulesaNY
Post #216
Wednesday June 26, 2013 5:12pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 949
Original post from navi8132

Brian,
Your article, Villareal seemed to be hinting that their gameplan may very well be a repeat of the Spain gameplan. That makes me VERY uneasy, it was unbelievably reckless (even if Torre were not playing). Additionally, given Ghana's height being comparable to our own, are we going to see a Stanko Oneil pairing finally?


Yes we were a bit reckless against Spain, and we got caught on it by 2 of the best players in this tournament. But thats why you videotape these games, so you can learn from your mistakes. I havent seen Ghana play but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say their possessing and finishing skills are not as good as Spains.

We also need to win. Come out hot, force turnovers in their defensive half, score goals. Then we can drop back a touch and play a little more conservative.

I like it.

navi8132
Post #217
Wednesday June 26, 2013 5:32pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 2,013
They don't have to play THAT high of a line. It can be a bit more moderated, perhaps just "slightly high." And, importantly, if I see Torre in that game, I am calling out Ramos as incompetent.

stone88
Post #218
Wednesday June 26, 2013 6:36pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 881
Original post from navi8132

They don't have to play THAT high of a line. It can be a bit more moderated, perhaps just "slightly high." And, importantly, if I see Torre in that game, I am calling out Ramos as incompetent.


I really don't know what Ramos sees in Torre. The kid could easily oneday turnout to be a quality CB, but he is way out of his depth in this tourney and clearly doesn't belong. I don't like to be too harsh on young prospects but the guy is almost completely at fault for half the goals against us so far. I really don't know why you don't go with a better more experienced pairing of Stanko and O'neil.

richieJkulesaNY
Post #219
Wednesday June 26, 2013 7:29pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 949
Original post from navi8132

They don't have to play THAT high of a line. It can be a bit more moderated, perhaps just "slightly high." And, importantly, if I see Torre in that game, I am calling out Ramos as incompetent.


I assume it wont be as high as they played Spain, but I do want to see defensive pressure in Ghana's own half. I also don't see Ghana trying to play the ball out of the back as much as Spain did/does.

And yes, no Torre please. I think we can all agree on that.

admsghs27
Post #220
Wednesday June 26, 2013 7:52pm

Joined Nov 2012
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No ecegueda either he has been as bad as torre...

navi8132
Post #221
Wednesday June 26, 2013 8:40pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 2,013
Ocegueda does not have recovery speed, playing a high line will be problematic for him....No too-much-so high line please

Know Nothing
Post #222
Wednesday June 26, 2013 11:26pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 377
Original post from admsghs27

No ecegueda either he has been as bad as torre...


I think it would be an understatement to say the left side of our back line has not been very good. I believe Torre is suspended for the next match so that change will be enforced.

blaise213
San Francisco CA
Post #223
Wednesday June 26, 2013 11:37pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 1,361
Sucks that this game isnt on TV

navi8132
Post #224
Wednesday June 26, 2013 11:50pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 2,013
ESPNU is a channel....its on tv

admsghs27
Post #225
Thursday June 27, 2013 12:08am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,287
Not many people have espnu.. Anyways most of the usa soccer.games i dont watch in english they are absolutely boring,.ian darke, twellman,keller, even harkes before they are probably some of the worsest commentators/analyst in the world..
i prefer to watch in in spanish, or in english only ray hudson.. Even portuguese is fine..

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