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EKneezy
Post #16
Friday June 14, 2013 11:50pm

Joined May 2013
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Curious 2tone could you give me a link to the Chandler opting out of the GC. Maybe I missed it when they announced the preliminary roster.

I do tgink Yedlin is on the rise but Chandler gets a bad rap.Dolo is gonna get the Boca treatment. Was disaapointed he opted out of the WCQs but he's getting up there in age.

MSantoine
Post #17
Saturday June 15, 2013 2:21am

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from Bshredder

Integrating into the senior team? perhaps but I think you'll see some players fast tracked after the U20 WC.

As for integrating U20 age level players (and players maybe just a little older) into the first teams of MLS, I think the rate is pretty acceptable even if not all are American: Gil, Villarreal, McBean, Yedlin, O'Neill, Fagundez, Teibert, Zimmerman along with those close in age: McInerney, Farrell, Agudelo, Kitchen


And this is awesome. MLS sees the benefit to playing these players over the 30 year old journeyman. When will team USA? All those players listed have been invited to 0 camps combined (Jack Mac will be the first assuming no injury from now to the GC). Look at other teams similar to our talent level that are in the U20 world cup that have at least one player to have a senior cap (never mind camps)
Ghana, Turkey, Colombia, Australia, Paraguay, Chile, Egypt, Iraq, New Zealand, Croatia.

All those countries know that when they have a young talented player to integrate him. I hope we get there some day

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #18
Saturday June 15, 2013 5:44am

Joined Jul 2012
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Original post from EKneezy

Curious 2tone could you give me a link to the Chandler opting out of the GC. Maybe I missed it when they announced the preliminary roster.

I do tgink Yedlin is on the rise but Chandler gets a bad rap.Dolo is gonna get the Boca treatment. Was disaapointed he opted out of the WCQs but he's getting up there in age.


Don't have a link, but it was stated in German news. Supposedly Klinsmann asked Chandler to play in the Gold Cup and Chandler declined again citing the need to rest up his injuries.

I have nothing against Chandler. But if that German news source is to be believed then Chandler will probably be in Klisnmann's dog house.

EKneezy
Post #19
Saturday June 15, 2013 7:37am

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Alright no problem.

guato-dany
Post #20
Saturday June 15, 2013 2:31pm

Joined Apr 2013
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If chandler can't play then i would bring in Andrew Farrell as his replacement

navi8132
Post #21
Saturday June 15, 2013 2:34pm

Joined Jul 2012
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If Chandler receives no punishment after all his SHIT, and Cherundelo gets punished come September due to asking for summer break for essentially the same thing (in a more honest way mind you), I will be livid.

In fact, in my prior positions I was always willing to put up with his shit because he was a worthwhile addition. Given this recent snub and his past lackluster play, I am though with him, I hope he is cut off from the USMNT permanently (I am aware it will not happen).

navi8132
Post #22
Saturday June 15, 2013 2:41pm

Joined Jul 2012
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There will regularly be knocks and minor injuries that a player would ideally like to rest up on.

Mojofc
Post #23
Saturday June 15, 2013 4:51pm

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At Cherundelos age it takes more time to heal injuries and also the body requires more time in between games. I have zero problem with Cherundelo opting out this summer.

At his age for some players, it's a matter of adding longevity to their careers or having him begin the season already somewhat tired and having him lose his spot midseason because of it.

Chandler opting out... not the same.
Rain, rain, go away Come again another day - USMNT, MUFC
Branquinho
Ballerado
Post #24
Sunday June 16, 2013 4:28am

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In chandlers defense, he has about the weakest connection to the US one could have. I guess jermaine jones started in the same boat, but chandler isn't exactly a world beater so i hope we let him do his thing over in the BL and check later to see if he has developed a real interest. Our options from the MLS have been great lately over some of our options in better leagues (Besler, Zusi, Gonzo) I wish we had called some for the GC in to explore options there. (Kofi, yedlin, farrell) if they dont quite cut it, fine, dolo will be back before long.

At this point in our prep for Brazil, I dont really see the point in calling in gooch, wondo, and some of the older gents if we've done without them so far and some aren't getting time at their respective clubs anyway. GC should be when we let a few young guns have a run in my opinion, since we dont do it during WCQ or friendlies either. I'm not saying a squad with an average age of 20, but throw 2 or 3 new guys in for a game and give a U20 or two a chance to make the jump.

Branquinho
Ballerado
Post #25
Sunday June 16, 2013 4:31am

Joined Jun 2013
Total Posts: 20
After looking at the squad again, I am excited to see bobby wood, jack mac, and Mix in there.

skangles
DC
Post #26
Sunday June 16, 2013 6:39am

Joined Jan 2013
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Original post from navi8132

If Chandler receives no punishment after all his SHIT, and Cherundelo gets punished come September due to asking for summer break for essentially the same thing (in a more honest way mind you), I will be livid.

In fact, in my prior positions I was always willing to put up with his shit because he was a worthwhile addition. Given this recent snub and his past lackluster play, I am though with him, I hope he is cut off from the USMNT permanently (I am aware it will not happen).


This is pretty much how I feel as well. Once the US clinches a World Cup spot, I suspect that Chandler will be quite eager to get some time with the team. I'm not sure that I would completely banish him from the MNT but I'm certainly ready to move on without him.

I hope Yedlin breaks out at the U-20 World Cup so that we can start to integrate him into the Senior squad as Dolo's backup.

Orozco has been serviceable as a RB for Puebla. He's a different style RB but I look forward to him getting some playing time in the Gold Cup.

tylercocinas
Post #27
Sunday June 16, 2013 12:04pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 704
Tim has to do what is best for himself. That being said I think a punishment of some sort is in order if he is avoiding the team for the aforementioned reasons. Preferably in the form of reduced national team appearances.

oldkeeper
NY, NY
Post #28
Monday June 17, 2013 4:58pm

Joined Jun 2013
Total Posts: 165
Original post from Mojofc

At Cherundelos age it takes more time to heal injuries and also the body requires more time in between games. I have zero problem with Cherundelo opting out this summer.

At his age for some players, it's a matter of adding longevity to their careers or having him begin the season already somewhat tired and having him lose his spot midseason because of it.

Chandler opting out... not the same.


I agree here. Dolo is a great player but getting old. Like Freidel did, he needs to look out for his long term career and take care of himself physically, which includes rest. I'm sure he'll come in in September and once JK gets a look at him vs. Evans, Dolo will be the man at RB.

Chandler is another story though. Maybe it's the flying thing they talk about with him, maybe he's rethinking playing for the U.S. altogether...who knows. While he's been a very good player at his club level though, fact is he hasn't shown well or made the commitment to the U.S. team. I have no problem with his being left of future rosters as a result. No one wants a guy who's half hearted in there.

Loche Achles
Post #29
Monday June 17, 2013 7:01pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 269
@ oldkeeper: Meh we'll find out about Chandler. We don't want a halfhearted player but at the same time he would certainly be the RB apparent for us to succeed Dolo for years to come and has a massive ceiling (and forehead)

He did say in his last interview that he had come to terms with his demons and was fully committed to the US, bla bla and about it now being his second home. IDK but it was a change of tune. His last injury keeping him out of these games wasn't that minor either... But I'm surprised Klinsy called him to the Gold Cup period. It doesn't fit with any of the other players he called since Chandler in theory would be a first team option/starter.

nolefansandy
Post #30
Monday June 17, 2013 8:38pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 280
Not saying we should be happy that we are being spurned by a talented player but Chandler is not a loss in the USMNT long run plan. Chandler, Jones, Johnson, Boyd, and Diskerud in a way are not products of American development. They are luxuries/supplements to the USMNT not real major loses. Losing Subotic, Najar, Nagbe, and Fagundez are more painful to the USMNT in the long run because we developed the players. The German-Americans and Diskerud are good players and helpful but it shouldn't be to painful to people when they spurn the USMNT.

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