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camparkinson
Post #1
Friday June 14, 2013 5:17am

Joined Aug 2012
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I'm very happy he's getting a chance and only 6 caps in he looks like a mainstay already. Incredible how well he's done and really makes me wonder...

What took so long!??!

This is a major problem with the USMNT and has been for a while and at all levels. Besler isn't a guy who's just barely having a career year either and different than the Cameron situation he plays a position the USMNT has needed for a long time.

skangles
DC
Post #2
Friday June 14, 2013 5:32am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,855
I'd love to see more friendlies scheduled throughout the year with the specific intention of playing fringe players similar to what's done at the end of the January camp. 2-3 fringe player friendlies per year would allow us to get looks at many of the players we hypothesize about on these boards.

I'm not suggesting that US soccer wastes a major revenue game against a big opponent like Germany on the fringe players but I see no reason why we couldn't bring in a CONCACAF team for these games and play them in a part of the country that otherwise wouldn't get a chance to see the national team. I think that they would still draw an ok crowd if they're planned properly and if not, it's for the betterment of the national team anyway.

Whether we agree or disagree with the selections - Besler, Gonzo, Evans and Davis are four guys that firmly established themselves as part of JK's team as a result of that painfully boring Friendly against Canada in January. Getting four players into the mix from a one-off friendly should be an indication that we should be doing this more frequently.

MSantoine
Post #3
Friday June 14, 2013 12:06pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,053
Original post from camparkinson

I'm very happy he's getting a chance and only 6 caps in he looks like a mainstay already. Incredible how well he's done and really makes me wonder...

What took so long!??!

This is a major problem with the USMNT and has been for a while and at all levels. Besler isn't a guy who's just barely having a career year either and different than the Cameron situation he plays a position the USMNT has needed for a long time.


His main reason was position. Although it was an area of weakness. He essentially plays Boca's role. When you play the same position as the captain you either need o play out of your mind at a high level, or have the captain get hurt, retire or stop getting minutes. Throw in the fact that more than any other country we value experience over talent and there's your reasons

dstones77
Hagerstown, MD
Post #4
Friday June 14, 2013 2:57pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 216
Those friendlies against concacaf opponents you want to see to showcase players plus get them good international experience so they can contribute in the future will be at the gold cup.. Besler and Gonzo are scheduled to be there. More chances to play next to each other to build chemistry the better

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #5
Friday June 14, 2013 3:32pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 4,850
Besler is the best CB in the pool right now. I have always thought he would translate well to the USMNT. Much more physical and positional aware compared to Ream.

He shutdown Chicharito and Klose.

Looks like he has played with the USMNT for a number of years versus just 6 caps.

SoccerGod
Clouds, Heaven
Post #6
Friday June 14, 2013 3:33pm

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 84
Original post from MSantoine

His main reason was position. Although it was an area of weakness. He essentially plays Boca's role. When you play the same position as the captain you either need o play out of your mind at a high level, or have the captain get hurt, retire or stop getting minutes. Throw in the fact that more than any other country we value experience over talent and there's your reasons


Your last sentence is 100% correct. I'm glad other people see that!
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leeterofcola
Post #7
Friday June 14, 2013 5:13pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 25
@SoccerGod @MSantoine

You guys are 100% correct. For a long time older experienced players have gotten the nod over talented up and comers, based solely on experience. You don't see that with Mexico. They are constantly introducing young talents even at the expense of popular players (Zavala, Herrera, Torres, Aquino). Experience is invaluable, but it doesn't win games alone. I'm happy for Matt Besler and Omar Gonzalez. For our whole backline really. The last 3 games we've started a back 4 comprised of players playing in North America (MLS/LigaMx).

The guys we are starting right now, may not be the most talented players in our pool either. But they are complementing each other and forming a more cohesive unit.

coverby
Post #8
Friday June 14, 2013 5:13pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 68
I watched Dortmund vs Man City last night as a replay on Fox Soccer last night. Man I wish we had Subotic and Besler in central defense.

stone88
Post #9
Friday June 14, 2013 9:09pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 800
I really like Besler. Extremely smart defender and more athletic than people give him credit. I believe a comentator on Bein sport said he was timed as one of the fastest players on the team?!?

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #10
Friday June 14, 2013 10:46pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 4,850
Original post from stone88

I really like Besler. Extremely smart defender and more athletic than people give him credit. I believe a comentator on Bein sport said he was timed as one of the fastest players on the team?!?


He was timed as the fastest player. Faster than EJ who can burn.

EKneezy
Post #11
Friday June 14, 2013 10:47pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,735
Also he's soooo confident with the ball which is nice to see. I think he's becoming a lock at that position. Gonzo can do him self some justice if he keeps playing well.

stone88
Post #12
Friday June 14, 2013 10:55pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 800
Original post from 2tone

He was timed as the fastest player. Faster than EJ who can burn.


Faster than Beasley, EJ, Fabian, and Castillo, and he's a CB. That is pretty good and probably partly why he compliments Gonzo so nicely.

skangles
DC
Post #13
Friday June 14, 2013 10:59pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,855
Where do you rank Jones in terms of speed? When he decides to make his runs he's like a bull powering up field. Part of what's impressive about his runs is his ability to maintain possession but he's also moving quite fast.


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