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tylercocinas
Post #16
Tuesday May 21, 2013 6:38pm

Joined Aug 2012
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"How can we do that when we are relying on foreign clubs to establish "brother" clubs in our league? We wont be able to gain any type of respect or credibility when our best players are overpaid players that we are getting from the "brother" club for inflated prices."

No need to worry Lilshmike. Just because the Sheik owns 2 clubs doesn't mean that there is a "big" or "little" brother. Stan Kroenke owns the Colorado Rapids and Arsenal but aside from the training and sharing tactics the clubs operate independently of each other. Will there be some Man City players that come on loan to NYC FC? Undoubtedly. But I think they'll be fine.

Given the size of the market I also think it's safe to say that NYRB will be fine (as long as they continue to put a decent product on the field and people will come). The presence of the Nets in BK didn't affect attendance at MSG for the Knicks, so while there is a chance of a negative impact, personally I don't believe that it's very high.

blaise213
Post #17
Tuesday May 21, 2013 6:49pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,926
Original post from Lilshmike

This is terrible. Honestly, for those of you who think this is a great idea, you are sadly mistaken.

Yes, the 20th team should have been in NYC. However, that team should have been the NY Cosmos. The Cosmos is an internationally recognized brand and team. And now that there is this new team in NYC, that brand/name/team will never be able to flourish in this country.


100% agree with you

Maybe one day you can get a super rich owner to buy NYRB, make the current stadium and site a training facility and build another stadium in NY and rebrand to the Cosmos

admsghs27
Post #18
Tuesday May 21, 2013 6:50pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Is gonna be intetesting which star player they will bring.. Maybe cr7 ? I think the attendance will be a problem some games will be half empty... When it comes to ratings sure it will be a lil higher, but no way it will be close to knicks, nets,Yankees,Mets, nfl... I still think Orlando would of been better.. But Orlando still has a chance if chivas USA are sold they could relocate there and start their own brand....

blaise213
Post #19
Tuesday May 21, 2013 7:07pm

Joined Sep 2012
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I see MLS maxing out at 26- 28 teams in the future.... Anything in the 30's will have problems

You gotta move chivas usa to Phoenix

richieJkulesaNY
Post #20
Tuesday May 21, 2013 8:11pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 1,016
For everybody pissed off at that its not the Cosmos, dont be mad at Don Garber, be mad at the Cosmos. I, too, wanted the Cosmos to be the brand/team, but they decided to flash the idea of building an arena in Belmont, NY and they joined the NASL. If they had any aspirations of joining the MLS, they put those to bed themselves.

As far as Orlando, Miami, and Atlanta, gimme a break. You honestly think putting a franchise in thoese cities is going to grow this league? Let's be real here. Thats "small towns, small minds" (that was an MxPx reference, which I think 2Tone might appreciate). I think its about time we have a soccer being played on the biggest stage in the world.

I'm a Mets fan and a United fan. Its absurd that would be a reason not to support this team, especially the Yankess aspect of it. I have my concerns, but I'm not going to jump off the deep end with all this ridiculous speculation until I see this team develop and figure out its brand.

A lot of people thinking that a staidum in Queens is off the table now, too. This would be sick...

http://www.thisisamericansoccer.com/?s=greenw...

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #21
Tuesday May 21, 2013 8:32pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,356
Original post from richieJkulesaNY

As far as Orlando, Miami, and Atlanta, gimme a break. You honestly think putting a franchise in thoese cities is going to grow this league? Let's be real here. Thats "small towns, small minds" (that was an MxPx reference, which I think 2Tone might appreciate). I think its about time we have a soccer being played on the biggest stage

http://www.thisisamericansoccer.com/?s=greenw...


Yes sir. MxPx fan for a long time.

blaise213
Post #22
Tuesday May 21, 2013 8:53pm

Joined Sep 2012
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@richieJkulesaNY

Ive seen that proposal a long time ago. Id worry about potential weather threats. Why not just go across the street and knock out a city block "eminent domain"

Just like the brooklyn nets did

The GS warriors are doing that in SF but we dont have to worry about Hurricanes or massive storms

http://www.allsportshype.com/3/post/2013/05/g...

I hope the new stadium has a retractible roof
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As far as orlando goes, If disney steps in for ownership and beckham wants a miami franchise, I see nothing but success

Not sure that Atlanta would do well - St Louis instead

MSantoine
Post #23
Tuesday May 21, 2013 9:02pm

Joined Nov 2012
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One of the biggest things that people use to say why English soccer, or French, or Spanish is so successful is that all the teams are geographically close to each other (how many teams in London??) Wouldnt it behove MLS to keep some teams close together to limit travel and let fans go to some road games. As a Revs game I can currently go to 1 other game without taking a flight (driving less than 6 hours). The cost and time to travel to the other teams make it hard/impossible to go to. Thats why Seattle/PDX/Vancouver is great for MLS. We need more scenarios like that

blaise213
Post #24
Tuesday May 21, 2013 9:08pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,926
@MSantoine

exactly why I always talk about expansion in San Francisco. Perfect soccer city and we just had the SF 49ers (who just got Superbowl 50 bid) move an hour south to Santa Clara which is 5 minutes from San Jose.

A stadium in downtown SF would be the sh*t. These stadiums have to be in a downtown to have a fanbase like you see in Seattle and Portland

Off topic: MLS all star game in 2014 at the new San Francisco 49ers stadium would be a sell out at 68,000
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I pray the revs can find some site in downtown Boston.... Knock out some property along one of the water fronts

Nick4235
Boston, Mass
Post #25
Tuesday May 21, 2013 9:21pm

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 164
Original post from blaise213
I pray the revs can find some site in downtown Boston.... Knock out some property along one of the water fronts


Don't get me started on the Revs needing a new stadium haha. I'd like a complete rebrand too but I don't see it happening...

blaise213
Post #26
Tuesday May 21, 2013 9:36pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,926
Original post from Nick4235

Don't get me started on the Revs needing a new stadium haha. I'd like a complete rebrand too but I don't see it happening...


Yeah, the Revs need to rebrand and at least create a better crest. Im over the top patriotic but i think "New England Revolution" is a mouth full

Needs to be irish themed or maybe have a number representing a historical event

Boston 1801 or Boston Clovers (lol sounds like a WNBA team) but you get the point.

Im so tired of clubs just putting FC on the city name.......

FC dallas needs to find a team name that represents their city and I also saw an article about a guy who creates concept mls teams and jersey's

Im really diggin houston dynamo name change to "SC Houston" (SPACE CITY Houston)

tylercocinas
Post #27
Tuesday May 21, 2013 10:50pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,151
Original post from blaise213
Im so tired of clubs just putting FC on the city name.......


Why? What difference does it make if it's [City Name-FC] or [City Name-Mascot]

If the fan base can identify with it and it is something that they are proud of then isn't that all that should matter?

I do agree that NE Revs need a crest redesign though... They are lonnnnnng overdue. Perhaps when they finalize plans to build a stadium then that will be something they bust out as part of a PR campaign to revitalize interest in the club a la SKC.

MSantoine
Post #28
Tuesday May 21, 2013 10:57pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,723
Original post from blaise213

I pray the revs can find some site in downtown Boston.... Knock out some property along one of the water fronts


The beauty of a place like Boston is the public transportation. They can take one of the suburbs (like Cambridge, Sommerville, Alston, Brighton) and as long as they build near a T stop (subway for non Bostonians), preffably the green or red line, they could get great attendance.

blaise213
Post #29
Tuesday May 21, 2013 11:03pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,926
Original post from tylercocinas

Why? What difference does it make if it's [City Name-FC] or [City Name-Mascot]



Because we are not europe and we dont call the sport football (FC), we call it soccer (SC) and a mascot name needs to represent the city and the history. Im fine with the FC name if its creative such as

Gotham City FC (this the name they should have went with, its historical)

You know how many damn people would show up in Superhero costumes ?? That would be a fun environment

Real salt lake, sporting KC ? Cmon man

NYCFC is also a mouthful to say

tylercocinas
Post #30
Tuesday May 21, 2013 11:57pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,151
Personally I think the distinction between soccer/football is trivial. The names (aside from Real SL, but even they did that with the intent of establishing a partnership of sorts with Madrid) are representative of the history of the sport which goes back 100yrs+

I think the league has achieved a nice balance between the old way in terms of naming and our traditional American way of naming teams.

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