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Post #16
Tuesday August 20, 2013 10:21pm

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Original post from rjw77

Who does he sub in for though? In a competitive match I don't see Bradley or Jones going any less than 90 unless an injury or something like that.


I would say Jones in an early yellow card situation. Never want to go down to 10 especially at the World Cup.

rainORshine
Post #17
Wednesday August 21, 2013 3:17am

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Original post from Bshredder

Kljestan is a good player. His club accomplishments speak for themselves.

He's better than a lot of US players but finding a role with him in the US team is difficult.

I will say this, he's always looked a lot better coming off the bench


this comment seems to be a bit of a knee-jerk reaction comparing his last 2 appearances. He has all of 1 start under JK, so we cant really draw any conclusions about how he might work as a starter with this group

consensus was that 6 previous sub apps (before bosnia game) for JK were nothing to get excited about. in fact if you were to go back and look at the post game comments you would probably see a lot of people saying how useless he was in those sub apps (which has been the consensus regarding kljestan, generally speaking)

BB saw fit to start kljestan more often (18 starts) than use him as a sub (15). i dont particularly recall him getting plaudits for his value as a sub back then, either. of course he was always a starter with olympic team as well.

i just dont really think there is any OBJECTIVE basis in saying kljestan is A LOT better coming off the bench than starting

Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #18
Wednesday August 21, 2013 4:35am

Joined Dec 2012
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Original post from rainORshine

this comment seems to be a bit of a knee-jerk reaction comparing his last 2 appearances. He has all of 1 start under JK, so we cant really draw any conclusions about how he might work as a starter with this group

consensus was that 6 previous sub apps (before bosnia game) for JK were nothing to get excited about. in fact if you were to go back and look at the post game comments you would probably see a lot of people saying how useless he was in those sub apps (which has been the consensus regarding kljestan, generally speaking)

BB saw fit to start kljestan more often (18 starts) than use him as a sub (15). i dont particularly recall him getting plaudits for his value as a sub back then, either. of course he was always a starter with olympic team as well.

i just dont really think there is any OBJECTIVE basis in saying kljestan is A LOT better coming off the bench than starting


Oh so wait...do you want Kljestan to play or not..

rainORshine
Post #19
Wednesday August 21, 2013 3:20pm

Joined Dec 2012
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Original post from Scout92

Oh so wait...do you want Kljestan to play or not..


i think SK deserves to have a bigger role - at least the 1st CM off the bench (if not a starter).

just not agreeing that he has been significantly better in his 22 sub apps than he has in his 19 starts for USMNT. i dont really think there has been a big difference.

either way we should have a much better idea of what he can offer with this group by now. 240 minutes for JK in 2 years is just really poor player management. (1700 minutes under BB - essentially before taking on a big role at anderlecht) compared to double digit starts for guys like edu, beckerman, williams, torres...

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #20
Wednesday August 21, 2013 5:43pm

Joined Jul 2012
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I will be the first to admit that Kljestan's game has improved. For me he is a solid player off of the bench.

tardis91
Post #21
Thursday August 22, 2013 6:31am

Joined Jun 2013
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Kljestan when paired with Bradley has always looked good. In the olympics and on every team he and Bradley have played on together. They pair much better together than Jones and Bradley IMO, though they actually shouldnt. Jones has that sort of want to get forward and doesnt really stay back a whole lot anyway. Bradley and Kljestan operate smoother together. That said JJ is better than SK, but Id like to see SK get some starts with Bradley, though it will never happen.

Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #22
Monday September 16, 2013 5:08am

Joined Dec 2012
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Kljestan has started off well this season and is looking to have a huge year. Hard not seeing him on that WC roster.

MSantoine
Post #23
Monday September 16, 2013 11:58am

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from Scout92

Kljestan has started off well this season and is looking to have a huge year. Hard not seeing him on that WC roster.


Maybe he can make an A team squad again before you guarentee his spot in Brazil.

Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #24
Monday September 16, 2013 4:58pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,047
Original post from MSantoine

Maybe he can make an A team squad again before you guarentee his spot in Brazil.


Nah I think I will now..

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #25
Monday September 16, 2013 7:58pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Not a lot of options ahead of him that aren't regular starters under JK...Jones, Bradley and Mix have booked their spots, maybe even Beckerman. As long as Danny Williams doesn't have a super breakout season Sacha has that last spot sewn up.

MSantoine
Post #26
Monday September 16, 2013 8:17pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from recycledhumans

Not a lot of options ahead of him that aren't regular starters under JK...Jones, Bradley and Mix have booked their spots, maybe even Beckerman. As long as Danny Williams doesn't have a super breakout season Sacha has that last spot sewn up.


I think he has to watch out for Cameron as well. If Chandler and Lichaj and one of Yedlin and Farrell really step up their game from jan through march and perform well in friendlies Cameron could slide into that 4th CM spot instead of backup RB spot.

oldkeeper
NY, NY
Post #27
Monday September 16, 2013 8:42pm

Joined Jun 2013
Total Posts: 165
Not so sure about Cameron in midfield. He did have one good showing but was a total flop against Costa Rica. JK may put him at RB or keep him in reserve at CB, but he's failed his midfield audition.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #28
Monday September 16, 2013 8:45pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,147
Original post from MSantoine

I think he has to watch out for Cameron as well. If Chandler and Lichaj and one of Yedlin and Farrell really step up their game from jan through march and perform well in friendlies Cameron could slide into that 4th CM spot instead of backup RB spot.


Cam is too needed as a utility defender, even if he does end up playing a bit of CM, I don't think his inclusion would be allocated to a midfield spot.

rainORshine
Post #29
Monday September 16, 2013 9:23pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,772
Original post from recycledhumans

Not a lot of options ahead of him that aren't regular starters under JK...Jones, Bradley and Mix have booked their spots, maybe even Beckerman. As long as Danny Williams doesn't have a super breakout season Sacha has that last spot sewn up.


diskerud has played a total of 59 minutes with the big kids (non-gold cup) this year. 45 of those were basically considered a flop in bosnia. not sure if his work as 3rd CM (after beckerman and holden) in Gold-cup and his 14 solid minutes v mexico is enough to say his spot is booked

come to think of it, i am positive it is not

hopefully both kljestan and diskerud get plenty of time in october and we start getting some answers to the CM questions

navi8132
Post #30
Monday September 16, 2013 9:27pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,935
Diskerud showed vs. Bosnia that he can't play with the best in the world just yet. Not physical enough.

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