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skangles
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Post #46
Sunday June 16, 2013 5:54pm

Joined Jan 2013
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If it doesnt work out for Freddy in Bahia, what would his value be around the MLS after the Union flare out? I know Toronto was interested before he went to Bahia but I cannot see him getting anywhere near the $400k he was earning as a DP in Philadelphia.

With that said, he's still young and is a big name which could be used for marketing purposes. I could see him getting $100-150k from an MLS team on a regular contract.

navi8132
Post #47
Sunday June 16, 2013 6:02pm

Joined Jul 2012
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If Adu's purpose was to collect wealth, then his career has been pretty successful. Otherwise not.

skangles
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Post #48
Sunday June 16, 2013 6:40pm

Joined Jan 2013
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The case of Freddy Adu exemplifies just how far the US has come. After the success of the 2002 world cup there was a lot of excitement surrounding the national team and everybody was looking for the next big star. Donovan and Beasley were both instrumental to the 2002 world cup run despite being just 20 years old and the MLS had success with high schoolers like Convey and Quaranta. This set the tone for a 14 year old Adu to both sign with the MLS and receive regular playing time in a league of men. Think about how crazy this is, we'll never see it again.

The trend of finding the next big thing continued with the hype of Szetela and the number one pick Nikolas Besagno.

Remember the 2005 U20 world cup which was pitched as having two of the most hyped youngsters in the world: Adu and Messi? I guess we drew the short stick.

The US actually did quite well in 2005 and won the group that featured Messi's Argentina. While the buzz around the US was all about Adu and Szetela it was a young midfielder from UCLA that turned heads: Benny Feilhaber. In fact Feilhaber, Kljestan and Evans who were all on that 2005 team are still in the national team picture while Adu struggles and Szetela is off getting arrested.

Just compare the era that Adu came up in to where we are at today whereby a two 19 year olds Villarreal and Gil are exciting because they have broken into their MLS clubs at such a young age. Then compare the mental and physical maturity that a 19 year old has over a 16 year old and it speaks volumes about how far US soccer has come.

Ohana
Post #49
Sunday June 16, 2013 9:19pm

Joined Jun 2013
Total Posts: 12
I don't think there's a single reason for the underwhelming club success by Adu. By underwhelming, I mean that he can't find a team that wants him for more than a season. It's probably personality. Whether you like him as a player or not, I think he probably doesn't fit in with his teammates or coaches. That in turn probably shows up in training, games, etc.

navi8132
Post #50
Sunday June 16, 2013 9:35pm

Joined Jul 2012
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Someone please just delete this thread. Until Freddy matures, no one need even bring his name up again.

Alcharod
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Post #51
Monday June 17, 2013 3:04am

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 574
I can send anyone the twitter link of the beat writer for bahia. I follow him and translate what he says. So far, Adu is very happy at Bahia, and knows very well that the situation was pretty bad when they got there. From what the coaches say, they are waiting bahia to clean up their act, get situated before they put Adu out there and have the US think he is a failure on a team whose management fired 14 players after they got crushed 7-1 vs Victoria.

I'm glad that the management is not throwing him out to the wolves so that Adu haters who thinks he needs to "MATURE" can just wait and see. If he's content everyone else should be, and be thankful that they are taking Adu under his wing getting him in form and making sure he keeps a good head on his shoulders.

admsghs27
Post #52
Monday June 17, 2013 3:33am

Joined Nov 2012
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Adu will never play a meaninful for the..usa again,, he is clearly not even in the pool for the usa B team... And by the way the guy is like 30.. I bet if cobi jones comes out of retirement tomorrow he would have a better chance of making the mnt roster than adu.. So this thread is now close speak of other up coming usa prospects....

Alcharod
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Post #53
Monday June 17, 2013 3:38am

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 574
Original post from admsghs27

Adu will never play a meaninful for the..usa again,, he is clearly not even in the pool for the usa B team... And by the way the guy is like 30.. I bet if cobi jones comes out of retirement tomorrow he would have a better chance of making the mnt roster than adu.. So this thread is now close speak of other up coming usa prospects....


It's really hard to respect your point of view when you say dumb things like that. No problem that you don't like the kid that is your right to do so, but how can you be taken serious when made zero arguments in your favor?

EKneezy
Post #54
Monday June 17, 2013 4:35am

Joined May 2013
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Although Adu is 23, its true. He needs a team to stay consistent and play well. I dont understand the blind love for Adu. Yes he's creative and brings a different skill set. But at what cost? Yeah he plays no games at Bahia so bring him in? No that shouldnt happen. Adu needs to start playing or the USMNT will forget about him.

admsghs27
Post #55
Monday June 17, 2013 5:09am

Joined Nov 2012
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Even if adu plays it doesnt mean he deserves a call,, all mls teams are better than bahia, but the league is one of the best in the world... Anyways if adu plays then 100 other american mls players also deserve a call up... He had his chance and blew it just a fre bright moments but nothing good that he deserve a call up.. I,think gyau and flores and much better prospects/players...

Alcharod
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Post #56
Monday June 17, 2013 12:45pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 574
Original post from EKneezy

Although Adu is 23, its true. He needs a team to stay consistent and play well. I dont understand the blind love for Adu. Yes he's creative and brings a different skill set. But at what cost? Yeah he plays no games at Bahia so bring him in? No that shouldnt happen. Adu needs to start playing or the USMNT will forget about him.


Now ask yourself why that applies to Adu but not Brek Shea, Danny Williams, Parkhurst, and a few others.... I understand that he has to be consistent, EVERYBODY should, but it's not blind love when you look at his National Career stats. I don't care about club stats that has nothing to do with what we are talking about. I don't personally want him to start but there is no reason why you can call in some who have poor form or havent played at all then say you can't bring him in for the same reasons....makes no sense to me.

munns5986
Post #57
Monday June 17, 2013 1:52pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 90
One of the main differences Alcharod and you know this is injuries. Those guys you mentioned are not being held out of the starting line up when healthy (ok maybe Williams is to an extent).

Loche Achles
Post #58
Monday June 17, 2013 2:59pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 270
Original post from Alcharod

Now ask yourself why that applies to Adu but not Brek Shea, Danny Williams, Parkhurst, and a few others.... I understand that he has to be consistent, EVERYBODY should, but it's not blind love when you look at his National Career stats. I don't care about club stats that has nothing to do with what we are talking about. I don't personally want him to start but there is no reason why you can call in some who have poor form or havent played at all then say you can't bring him in for the same reasons....makes no sense to me.


Adu could be called in if Klins wanted to call him in. Its as simple as that. There are other players in the "Adu situation" mold such as Lichaj (long stretches of infrequent play for club teams) that are snubbed as well.

As for Parkhurst, Williams, and the like, these guys were playing regularly for years until just recently having stretches of bench action. Parkhurst I think was only brought in, never to see the field, but as a cover option (he got snubbed for Brad Evans... Proof that playing time matters these days). Williams was too hurt to do anything but maybe Hoff asked Klinsy to bring him in so he could stay warm.

Either way really you can make an argument from either side and at the end of the day its up to the coaches for these borderline guys (high potential, low play, whatever the balance is). I wouldn't be surprised to see Freddy get called up under Klinsy again sometime... He is known for curveball call ups. Then we can properly assess the situation.

Alcharod
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Post #59
Monday June 17, 2013 3:01pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 574
Original post from Loche Achles

Adu could be called in if Klins wanted to call him in. Its as simple as that. There are other players in the "Adu situation" mold such as Lichaj (long stretches of infrequent play for club teams) that are snubbed as well.

As for Parkhurst, Williams, and the like, these guys were playing regularly for years until just recently having stretches of bench action. Parkhurst I think was only brought in, never to see the field, but as a cover option (he got snubbed for Brad Evans... Proof that playing time matters these days). Williams was too hurt to do anything but maybe Hoff asked Klinsy to bring him in so he could stay warm.

Either way really you can make an argument from either side and at the end of the day its up to the coaches for these borderline guys (high potential, low play, whatever the balance is). I wouldn't be surprised to see Freddy get called up under Klinsy again sometime... He is known for curveball call ups. Then we can properly assess the situation.


Exactly i just hate for the Adu haters to spark things up for no reason especially when are USMNT is playing well right now. Lets just leave Adu alone for right now, let the Bahia mess clear up he will get his min and maybe see some friendly action next year. Its that simple.

Lilshmike
Post #60
Monday June 17, 2013 4:28pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 504
Freddy Adu is not that good. Bahia is terrible. If he was as good as people (Alcharod) claim, he would be playing for both club and country.

Unfortunately, he is not.

Just because he made a couple good passes in a national team game a few years ago doesnt mean that he should be in the squad. If it did, then he would be on the USMNT.

Unfortunately, he is not.

Nobody wants to hear about Adu until he has done something. Nobody cares about Adu until he does something, and by something, I mean be a league leader in assists and score some goals in the process.

Unfortunately, he has done nothing and will still remain irrelevant until he can earn club minutes and/or gain the attention of the national team coach in some way that gets him called into the USMNT.

So until then, QUIT TALKING ABOUT FREDDY ADU!!!

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