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Post #136
Wednesday February 15, 2017 5:34am

Joined May 2014
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Original post from MSantoine

I disagree. This is a perfect signing for an expansion club. Even if he doesnt play many games due to injury, he's a "name" true soccer fans know. He'll be one of the guys (along with Ibarra) they can put on the cover of their programs, have bobblehead nights for, do the weekly radio talk show.

I bet he becomes their number one jersey seller if this deal goes through (as of last night nothing official, still just a trial(


And to add on, IF he does pan out, talk about a lucrative turn over. Possible USMNT call up and possible top 10 goal scorer. BLAZING speed is always fun to watch. I'm sure the possible turn over was worth the risk.

Rey Regicide
Post #137
Wednesday February 15, 2017 1:15pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 1,973
wait so they have Gatt one side and Ibarra on the other?

niceeeeee

hamsamwich
Post #138
Wednesday February 15, 2017 3:37pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 2,519
Actually they have Ibarra on one side and Johan Venegas on the other. Christian Ramirez and Kevin Molino in the attack. Of course they drafted Danladi with their top choice to work into the rotation. So Gatt could potentially come off the bench at RW, or.... he was played at RB by Ole Gunnar at Molde his first go around, before the injuries. I could see him flying up that right side from the fullback position. Good choice with not too much immediate pressure, at the same time a very competitive situation with attacking players. Adrian Heath has something to work with.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #139
Wednesday February 15, 2017 8:22pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 9,334
Ibarra is more of a 10 to be honest. I could see GATT on the left and Ibarra underneath. Also GATT was playing as more of a second fwd with Molde at the end of this season.

navi8132
New York
Post #140
Wednesday February 15, 2017 11:59pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 2,785
This move is great for Josh Gatt and his family. Given he came from Michigan. I would love to see a similar move from Joe Gyau to MLS.

hamsamwich
Post #141
Thursday February 16, 2017 2:43am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 2,519
I agree on Ibarra @2tone, but the point is still the same. With the talent on the field for Minnesota, he doesn't have to be relied upon, he can grow into his role on the team. @navi- yea Joe Gyau could come back why not?

Rey Regicide
Post #142
Thursday February 16, 2017 2:07pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 1,973
Whoops wrong post, um Gyau has a tough road ahead of him, Flores, too,

just come to the USA guys, you're young, you'll get paid decently, live closer to home...

tylercocinas
Post #143
Thursday February 16, 2017 2:50pm

Joined Aug 2012
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I think Gyau may feel he still has something to prove in Germany. He was so close to breaking through before those injuries. If he can get a consistent run of matches under his belt he'll be back in 2.Bunndesliga within 12-18mo., and from there who knows

Rey Regicide
Post #144
Thursday February 16, 2017 3:10pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 1,973
I agree, he's got quality, but what you just detailed there, in your last sentence, is potential.

He can come to the US and make it to a first division club. At least more likely.

HE is 24 years old.

It's not that much more time left, 12 to 18 to back to b. 2 he's 25, a couple more to get into bundesliga or a top flight league in Europe? 27 28. Is that better than being a benchie for a year and then getting a starting role at let's say Orlando City or DC United?

Think United wouldn't take a flyer on a winger from the area?

Rey Regicide
Post #145
Thursday February 16, 2017 3:12pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 1,973
Flores can come back and be AHEAD of the game.

i do'nt think it was ever a problem to get into the US MNT after 2006 (when you were competing against Reyna, McBride, Gooch, Lewis, Convey, Berhalter etc European contingent) as people make it sound.

But until 2012, it WAS tough to come back to the US, get into the US MNT and perform at a level high enough that was needed.

Literally the only one to do it was Donovan. Even Dempsey went from Hot Rod to Rodimus Prime only after his 20 goal season with Fulham.

navi8132
New York
Post #146
Thursday February 16, 2017 3:16pm

Joined Jul 2012
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I don't think any one need to "prove" they can make it in any specific country. A player needs to prove they can make it in professional soccer, period. You go where there is a challenge, money, and other benefits. As far as I am concerned, Gyau + Gatt will find considerable challenge in MLS. As well as money and benefits. Would a 3-Bund and eventually a 2-Bund team really pay him more than an MLS team (talking about the short term)? I don't know, but I doubt it.

Rey Regicide
Post #147
Thursday February 16, 2017 3:37pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 1,973
Right, I mean this is the benefit of our domestic league. To employ our domestic players. They're going to pay for domestic talent, and give our talent the benefit of the doubt, unless you're redbull; in which case you will pay for Luke Rodgers ditch Agudelo, pay for Marquez and UGGHHH I went to my unhappy place....

Or put it this way, You know Adu plays maybe 2 minutes a year for the club he signs onto right? He played a whole year for the Union before being marginalized!!!

That means Gyau can get run time for the REST OF HIS CAREER!

tylercocinas
Post #148
Thursday February 16, 2017 5:25pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,113
Original post from Rey Regicide

I agree, he's got quality, but what you just detailed there, in your last sentence, is potential.

He can come to the US and make it to a first division club. At least more likely.

HE is 24 years old.

It's not that much more time left, 12 to 18 to back to b. 2 he's 25, a couple more to get into bundesliga or a top flight league in Europe? 27 28. Is that better than being a benchie for a year and then getting a starting role at let's say Orlando City or DC United?

Think United wouldn't take a flyer on a winger from the area?


I mean theres no doubt that Gyau is exactly what DC need, a young wide player. Their current options are all 30 or older. But I couldn't fault him for staying until he is 27ish and seeing how close to the Bundesliga-level he can get. You've only got 1 career, and you don't want any what-ifs once its all said and done.

tylercocinas
Post #149
Thursday February 16, 2017 5:28pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,113
Original post from navi8132

I don't think any one need to "prove" they can make it in any specific country. A player needs to prove they can make it in professional soccer, period. You go where there is a challenge, money, and other benefits. As far as I am concerned, Gyau + Gatt will find considerable challenge in MLS. As well as money and benefits. Would a 3-Bund and eventually a 2-Bund team really pay him more than an MLS team (talking about the short term)? I don't know, but I doubt it.


He'd make more money here, that's for sure. The salary disparity between Bundesliga and 2.Bundesliga was allegedly one of the things that factored into Jordan Morris' decision to sign with SSFC. I wasn't saying he had to prove himself in that sense. He's got the quality to play in Europe's top 5 leagues. Bobby Wood had the quality when he was in 2.Bundesliga too, but it's about backing up your promise on the pitch, which makes bigger clubs take notice. If he can do that, he'll play again in the Bundesliga without a doubt.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #150
Thursday February 16, 2017 8:32pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 9,334
YEah the clock is ticking on a Gyau. Picault was smart and decided to come to MLS, GATT was smart and d cider to come to MLS. Boyd was contemplating coming to MLS before Darmstadt offered him a contract. Playing in 3rd Bundesliga at 24 isn't a great thing unless this team gains promotion after promotion.

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