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admsghs27
Post #1
Thursday May 9, 2013 8:33pm

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I know is still early in the season but the average mls attendance has been down greatly from last year.. I was thinking is it the Beckham effect, or the quality of play, or advertising.. It isn't just certain teams but most mls teams attendances are down from last year even Seattle.. Last nights average was around 10k or so, and i know it was a mid week games but still they were horrible.. If it keeps up this will be the worst average attendance since Beckham came to the league in 2007. I hope it changes soon.

Red
NY
Post #2
Thursday May 9, 2013 8:38pm

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yeah, it has been sub-par up to this point, but as the summer weather comes around the attendances pick up by quite a bit. As a Red Bulls fan I know that we have miserable attendances the first few months but as mid June comes around we start to pick up and it surges through the playoffs.

While I love seeing young American players groomed and blossom, MLS needs other "stars" such as Henry and Beckham to draw people as well. MLS has not brought in that kind of star since 2010 in Henry. As good as Keane is he does not have "star" power. I expect the Red Bulls to bring in Kaka this summer or next as we have his brother Digao down for 200k this season...otherwise it makes no sense to pay someone that much who is your 8th best defender and an unused sub most games.

Hopefully LA also bring in a "star" name such as Lampard. Lampard and Kaka both still have talent and could do well in the league and bring some attention from the eurosnobs who we do need at times.

Red
NY
Post #3
Thursday May 9, 2013 8:40pm

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I'm more concerned about the awful ratings NBCSN/ESPN2 have generated. The TV ratings are more important and we have seen a dip from last season(the Olympic lead in helped quite a bit.)

MLS needs some sort of a jolt. Hopefully NY2 gets worked out soon, MLS NEEDS a true NY market with star power big time. Imagine what the New York Derby would rate on television. epic.

blaise213
San Francisco CA
Post #4
Thursday May 9, 2013 8:42pm

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Where did you see the current attendance numbers?

Bshredder
Post #5
Thursday May 9, 2013 8:42pm

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They'll pick up in the summer

but Chivas USA will be a drag

admsghs27
Post #6
Thursday May 9, 2013 9:05pm

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http://mlsattendance.blogspot.com/

It still hasn't update, but it will be worst when it updates.. I really hope it picks up, but i think some teams will drag the average down.. Teams that desperately need a new stadium are san jose/soon, dc united, new England, Chivas USA/new home also.. Idk but new york has been bad in attendance idk how a ny2 will do any good. Orlando seems good, i think down there they could average 20-25k easily..

SoccerGod
Clouds, Heaven
Post #7
Thursday May 9, 2013 9:24pm

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Original post from admsghs27

http://mlsattendance.blogspot.com/

It still hasn't update, but it will be worst when it updates.. I really hope it picks up, but i think some teams will drag the average down.. Teams that desperately need a new stadium are san jose/soon, dc united, new England, Chivas USA/new home also.. Idk but new york has been bad in attendance idk how a ny2 will do any good. Orlando seems good, i think down there they could average 20-25k easily..


If I understand correctly the Res Bulls are actually in Jersey and from what I've heard it's very inconvenient for New Yorkers to get there. NY2 would be in Queens and more of a central place for fans to get to.
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Post #8
Thursday May 9, 2013 9:46pm

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Seems like the casual fans are tuning out. We need to do a better job of attracting them and the general public. And of course the eurosnobs as well.

This means bringing in a couple talented stars (Americans love stars and eurosnobs love players they can watch live and get to tell their grandkids about). Players who can still be good well into their 30's. And players who bring something to the table that regular MLS guys don't. And of course it has to be an entertaining player as well, someone who can make the Sportscenter top 10 plays of the week and get people to want to watch him.

Kaka is definitely that player (and he has other advantages like an amazing off-the-field reputation and brand value, not to mention he won't be partying). Lampard, I'm afraid is not that player. The MLS needs to convince its owners to sign the Gutis and ignore the Cahills (you can get an MLS player for that role). The fact that its the other way around shows some of the problems of the MLS.

I don't know if this is just a temporary trend or a bigger problem. We'll see but I'm a bit nervous. Sometimes I fear that Americans will give up on MLS and just watch European soccer or a sport we're really good at.
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admsghs27
Post #9
Thursday May 9, 2013 10:08pm

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Wanted to point out something interesting that happened a couple years back, Kansas city had one of the worst attendances in mls, and when they beat man-u in kc, I heard, and is a fact that they sold the next day about 7k season tickets.. I think if mls teams start to beat world powers maybe season tix will boost.. we should scheduled them more often ... here's the link below.

http://www.premiershiptalk.com/2010/07/27/sea...

nolefansandy
Post #10
Thursday May 9, 2013 11:01pm

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My 2 cents is MLS and Soccer in general got a huge boost in attendance after the World Cup. If the Galaxy can hold on to Gonzalez and MLS can hold on to the USMNT stars, the MLS can have a huge growth in viewership. MLS and the USMNT's future goes hand in hand. If the USMNT is successful, MLS is successful. IF the USMNT Makes the world cup, we can probably forget about attendance issues

Loche Achles
Post #11
Friday May 10, 2013 12:58am

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I think its a little premature anyways. I looked over the attendance and its only down 7.6 percent so far. That isn't horrible, especially with Chivas, Chicago on SJ dragging the ship down. Blaise, any read on what's up with that at SJ?? They have been good recently... I'm surprised.

Come summer there will be more WC action, better weather, no Euro soccer to watch... I think things will be fine. Besides, the big issue isn't really attendance... Its that long sought after jewel of American sport... TV CONTRACTS.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #12
Friday May 10, 2013 1:11am

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Seattle, LA, Portland, KC, Vancouver, Montreal and RSL will continue to carry the attendance numbers for the league.

I know Dallas' attendance numbers have been up while Houston is down.

This is the earliest MLS has ever started, and lets not forget attendance and TV ratings are much better in the summer.

nolefansandy
Post #13
Friday May 10, 2013 1:24am

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San Jose's attendance will go up when they get a new stadium

Red
NY
Post #14
Friday May 10, 2013 3:12am

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tbh, I'm not worried about the attendance...not one bit.

I'm more concerned with TV ratings, but I feel as we enter into more markets we will create new fans. I know some people in Phoenix who don't watch the MLS but if MLS entered into that market they would start watching. While I feel MLS will cap off at 24 teams that leaves room for another 5 markets and if you do market theory that would come out to roughly 50k(ish off the top of my head, low estimate) new fans per market(not 50k watching every domestic game). These fans would then watch other nationally televised games and hence ratings would increase by a significant portion....it wouldn't bring us to NHL level but we would be much better off.

2016 will be a game changer when Ronaldo and NY2 enter the league. Call me crazy....

blaise213
San Francisco CA
Post #15
Friday May 10, 2013 6:47am

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The attendance issue is going on with all sports.

I saw a lot of empty seats during the San Antonio vs Warriors playoff game in san antonio.

Here at home the hot ticket is the SF giants, 49ers, Warriors, sharks. Not so much with the As and Raiders because the stadium area is starting to suck....

The SJ earthquakes will be fine with the new stadium

Attendance in baseball is really bad in a lot of markets

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-...

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