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Jzaval01
Post #1
Wednesday May 8, 2013 2:47am

Joined May 2013
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With the news of John Anthony Brooks possibly joining our U-20 side. Having Players coming back to fitness like Cuevas and Zimmerman our squad is near 100%. Only one missing I would have to say is Marc Pelosi. What are peoples opinions of our team making out the World Cup Group stage. It might sound like a big stretch but can you guys see this team making it far, heck even winning the whole thing if we play with level of hunger that we showed against Mexico in the Finals. Crazy but just me?

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #2
Wednesday May 8, 2013 3:10am

Joined Jul 2012
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Every team has a chance when the tournament starts.

I hope and I believe this team will show well. I think they can certainly get out of the group, and possibly make some serious noise in the knock out rounds.

This team has some really talented players. And it is certainly starting to shape up to be one of the most talented US U-20 teams since 2007.

Red
NY
Post #3
Wednesday May 8, 2013 3:42am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 417
At youth tournaments like this anything is possible as long as you advance from your group and stay healthy/suspension free(for key players.)

The difference between the U-20 and FIFA WC is that at the U-20's 3 teams can advance from a few groups which boost our chances even more at having a successful WC.

I hope they shine on a big stage and everyone enters the competition healthy for a change.

Bshredder
Post #4
Wednesday May 8, 2013 4:01am

Joined Aug 2011
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I love it how Villarreal said Spain, France, and Ghana should fear the USA. That's the great attitude

On top of that, this US U20 team is remarkably strong even considering the loss of Packwood and Pelosi. A U20 team that can compete well even with the loss of 2 starter is impressive.

As for starting lineup, I have this in a 4-3-3. And yes, I have Morris starting because he fits the system so well with speed and strength. The speed and endurance is crucial in Ramos' 4-3-3.

------------Cropper-------
--Yedlin---O'Neill----Brooks---Ocegueda
------------Stanko------------
-------Gil-----------Joya----
--Morris----------------Cuevas---
------------Villarreal------------

That's not bad and it has good skills sets

1) Speed from wingers and fullbacks (Cuevas, Ocegueda, Yedlin & Morris)
2) Good possession and creativity from midfielders in Joya and Gil.
3) Central defenders who can pass in Brooks and O'Neill. I have no problem if Zimmerman starts as long as he's healthy. He brings a needed physical edge that the team could use.
4) A forward who can pass and combine well with other attackers.

It will all come down to chemistry for the team to advance from the group but the team has the talent to do so.

Jzaval01
Post #5
Wednesday May 8, 2013 4:26am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 844
Original post from Bshredder

I love it how Villarreal said Spain, France, and Ghana should fear the USA. That's the great attitude

On top of that, this US U20 team is remarkably strong even considering the loss of Packwood and Pelosi. A U20 team that can compete well even with the loss of 2 starter is impressive.

As for starting lineup, I have this in a 4-3-3. And yes, I have Morris starting because he fits the system so well with speed and strength. The speed and endurance is crucial in Ramos' 4-3-3.

------Cropper----
-Yedlin--O'Neill--Brooks--Ocegueda
------Stanko------
----Gil------Joya--
-Morris--------Cuevas--
------Villarreal------

That's not bad and it has good skills sets

1) Speed from wingers and fullbacks (Cuevas, Ocegueda, Yedlin & Morris)
2) Good possession and creativity from midfielders in Joya and Gil.
3) Central defenders who can pass in Brooks and O'Neill. I have no problem if Zimmerman starts as long as he's healthy. He brings a needed physical edge that the team could use.
4) A forward who can pass and combine well with other attackers.

It will all come down to chemistry for the team to advance from the group but the team has the talent to do so.


Right I'ts good hearing that from Villareal if they play with lots of confidence and no fear against those oppositions they will beat them. What really has me excited is how much heart they can display it's just amazing. It's really exciting seen this team from Chemistry point of view I think we are well. Even if we had any injury we have a good amount of depth. It's funny thinking that when I first saw this group I really didn't feel disappointed.

MSantoine
Post #6
Wednesday May 8, 2013 11:46am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,616
I agree we should be able to come out of the group, even if its as a 3rd seed. Playing the fun hypothetical game our potential seeding could go along way in determining our success.

1st in group- Get to play a 3rd place team. Winning that would give us a runner up in the quaterfinals (likely either Nigeria, South Korea, or Croatia). Id think we'd be favored there. Would potentially avoid Mexico and Portugal until finals.

2nd in group- runner up group C (likely either Turkey or Colombia). Would be much harder round of 16 game. A likely QF match vs Mexico awaits that. Very hard path

3rd- Play a group winner (Turkey, Portugal, Colombia) with England/Uruguay/Croatia/Egypt waiting in QF.

Anything can happen and several favorites wont win their groups which change things but it shows how big winning the group would prove to be. I actually think 3rd place, depending on a couple of breaks would lead to as easier path to the semis (which should be this groups goal)

dstones77
Hagerstown, MD
Post #7
Wednesday May 8, 2013 2:28pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 210
Im excited to watch this WC unfold this summer the team seems so balanced. I really jsut wish Pelosi was in that holding mid spot (maybe cuz I'm a Liverpoooop fan) but they have the potential with plenty of depth

navi8132
Post #8
Wednesday May 8, 2013 2:31pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,600
I don't see the appeal of a 4-3-3 even if you can fit the players into it. I would prefer a more conservative 4-2-3-1 with heavy emphasis on counters. It's not as pretty, but I argue it allows a greater chance to win. Especially against Spain.

MSantoine
Post #9
Wednesday May 8, 2013 3:38pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,616
Original post from navi8132

I don't see the appeal of a 4-3-3 even if you can fit the players into it. I would prefer a more conservative 4-2-3-1 with heavy emphasis on counters. It's not as pretty, but I argue it allows a greater chance to win. Especially against Spain.


Admittedly I dont know much about Spains youth team, other than the fact I havent heard much about them, they dont have many people on their team in Barca/Real Madrid youth teams, and they struggled to get results in the U19 UEFA (beat Greece 1-0, needed PKs vs France, teid Portugal, needed injury time to beat Armenia and a last second goal to beat Italy.

I think if we are to move forward we need to stop playing counter attack football and become the aggressor. If Spain comesout and dominates the first half and scores a goal or two we change it up and even a loss at that point isnt the end of the world, at least we'd have set the barometer of where are team is and send confidence to the players we arent afraid of anyone

richieJkulesaNY
Post #10
Wednesday May 8, 2013 4:53pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 762
Original post from navi8132

I don't see the appeal of a 4-3-3 even if you can fit the players into it. I would prefer a more conservative 4-2-3-1 with heavy emphasis on counters. It's not as pretty, but I argue it allows a greater chance to win. Especially against Spain.


I didnt like the 4-3-3 either. I thought they looked crappy against Haiti. When they moved to a 4-2-3-1, it gave them a better defensive shape and they can play a higher line in the back to protect against counters.

navi8132
Post #11
Wednesday May 8, 2013 6:02pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,600
I agree Richie. Regardless, I think the 4-3-3 will crop up at the WC, and if it doesn't work, and we don't switch to a different formation, the coaches deserve to take blame for a MAJOR error.

blaise213
San Francisco CA
Post #12
Wednesday May 8, 2013 6:26pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 1,097
Interview at U-20 camp: Joya, Garcia, Yedlin

http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/the91stminute/

WOW. Yedlin said the U20 play is faster than the MLS because of the style of play

Jzaval01
Post #13
Wednesday May 8, 2013 11:15pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 844
Original post from blaise213

Interview at U-20 camp: Joya, Garcia, Yedlin

http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/the91stminute/

WOW. Yedlin said the U20 play is faster than the MLS because of the style of play


Wow nice good seen those guys ready to throw down with Spain or anything that is thrown at them. I hope Yedlin can produce as well as he has for Sounders. He just has really impressed me when he played in the Concacaf Champion League. He kind of remind me of Dani Alves Attacking and defending. Bit Out stretched with that comparison.

Footyskillz
Arlington, VA
Post #14
Friday May 10, 2013 12:32pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 291
So pumped for this. The additions of Yedlin and Brooks, if all pans out, will do wonders. Great stage for these guys. Scouts galore in attendance.
USMNT, Porto, and Bundesliga fanatic - T: @gouldinho_j
blaise213
San Francisco CA
Post #15
Friday May 10, 2013 11:55pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 1,097
Ill be so pumped if Bryan Salazar is called in

Heres why again:

http://www.houstondynamo.com/video/2013/04/29...

I dont see any other kid in the US system that is scoring goals like this. This kid gets past 2 to 3 players every time and scores

Tab Ramos better be looking at B Salazar

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