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Post #1
Tuesday May 7, 2013 2:38pm

Joined Jul 2012
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I mean, it's not the biggest deal in the world. As long as Stevie is healthy, Chandler would ideally not have played much. Geoff Cameron is backup in my opinion. Which is good because Besler and Gonzo had better chemistry.

guato-dany
Post #2
Tuesday May 7, 2013 3:47pm

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 78
I don't want to sound stupid but we need to start moving forward we cant rely on steve check erundolo no more he is getting older we need to start bringing in younger players i just wish Eric lichaj was having more playing time he played well in the gold cup

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #3
Tuesday May 7, 2013 3:51pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 5,025
I think the USMNT has enough cover right now at both full back positions.

RB: Dolo, Cameron
LB: Fabian, Castillo

I think we can pretty much rule out Fabian being moved to winger though.

Which is fine because Zusi, Lando, Bedoya, and Beasley are all in good form.

Maybe this will open up a spot for Wooten to be brought in as well.

Or maybe it will open up a spot for George John to be brought in at CB with Cameron moving out to back-up RB.

rainORshine
Post #4
Tuesday May 7, 2013 4:58pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,773
if chandler is out, i would expect cameron to be a designated RB option and both boca and goodson options at CB:

D: besler, boca, cameron, castillo, dolo, goodson, gonzo, johnson

goodson just started in colorado in march and played well, just went 90 last weekend for brondby, so he is not injured (just not always starting). no reason to bring in anyone new - besler and gonzo are new enough

gold cup will be audition for 'new' options i would guess

GD10
Post #5
Tuesday May 7, 2013 6:17pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 240
Cherundolo is gonna be the right back. He is the best player at that position. To be honest Chandler has had like what one good game with the US, and that was against Belgium besides that he has been average to horrible in every other game. The Honduras game really turned me sour to Chandler, I know everyone was tired but he was the WORST player on the field, Carlo Costly a guy who couldn't cut it in MLS ripped him a new one numerous times. Until he improves his performances (maybe Gold Cup, unlikely though) ppl need to start to take off their Chandler goggles.

rainORshine
Post #6
Tuesday May 7, 2013 6:54pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,773
Original post from GD10

Cherundolo is gonna be the right back. He is the best player at that position. To be honest Chandler has had like what one good game with the US, and that was against Belgium besides that he has been average to horrible in every other game. The Honduras game really turned me sour to Chandler, I know everyone was tired but he was the WORST player on the field, Carlo Costly a guy who couldn't cut it in MLS ripped him a new one numerous times. Until he improves his performances (maybe Gold Cup, unlikely though) ppl need to start to take off their Chandler goggles.


one good game? you are joking, right?

this is just utter BS. chandler just turned 23 and has been fixture in bundesliga for 2.5 season already. not only that but has been either good or very good in basically ALL 9 apps for USMNT previous to honduras.

he had 1 poor game, when JK decided to play NO ONE on the right side in front of him.

absolutely unbelievable short-sightedness concerning chandler. dolo is 34 (going on 35) and injury-prone. most likely chandler start in brazil

GD10
Post #7
Tuesday May 7, 2013 7:02pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 240
I'm not joking please enlighten me, he did a ok as a leftback, he didn't light it up and Chandler hasn't had great year this season.

munns5986
Post #8
Tuesday May 7, 2013 7:15pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 97
GD10 you are discounting saying he had one really good game but harping on the fact that he had one really bad game. If you are going to focus one game stints look at both ends of the spectrum instead of finding the only ones that help what you are saying. I am not saying Chandler is the end all but just don't see how you can tell people to take off the goggles when apparently you are doing the same thing just on the negative end.

Bshredder
Post #9
Tuesday May 7, 2013 9:18pm

Joined Aug 2011
Total Posts: 1,459
Original post from GD10

Cherundolo is gonna be the right back. He is the best player at that position. To be honest Chandler has had like what one good game with the US, and that was against Belgium besides that he has been average to horrible in every other game. The Honduras game really turned me sour to Chandler, I know everyone was tired but he was the WORST player on the field, Carlo Costly a guy who couldn't cut it in MLS ripped him a new one numerous times. Until he improves his performances (maybe Gold Cup, unlikely though) ppl need to start to take off their Chandler goggles.


To be honest, under Klinsmann very few American players are playing as well for the USMNT as they are with their clubs. Jozy, Chandler, Jones, Gomez, and Zusi are just a few of the many examples. There's no point singling out Chandler for being the culprit because he's just one of many. Chandler is a good player.

dolcem
Post #10
Tuesday May 7, 2013 10:43pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,045
Original post from Bshredder

To be honest, under Klinsmann very few American players are playing as well for the USMNT as they are with their clubs. Jozy, Chandler, Jones, Gomez, and Zusi are just a few of the many examples. There's no point singling out Chandler for being the culprit because he's just one of many. Chandler is a good player.


Zusi is NOT international quality and he is NOT a winger. We've had to play him there because we don't have any other options. Gomez again is not a winger but we don't have any other options. Jones did not come out of the American system and doesn't really fit in with our players. He has never really played that well for us, and that includes under Coach Bob. Jozy gets no service because we have no decent attacking midfielders (aside from Dempsey, who has never exactly torn it up for the Nats, especially under Coach Bob, and is not really a creator or a distributor) and no way to get him the ball. This isn't Holland. And let's not forget that while he has scored lots of goals for AZ, he has missed tons of chances as well and had some very mediocre performances. Chandler has been inconsistent for us but some of that is a lack of familiarity with CONCACAF and of course there's the fact that this isn't his system. I think he should be given more time.

You can't view the national team as a set of individual players that the coach must get the maximum performance out of and then blame him when it doesn't happen. Sometimes the system is great and you get guys playing much better than they do for their club teams. Other times the players don't complement each other well or there are missing pieces and they won't play well. That's the case for us right now. While everyone has a different opinion on what tactics/roster selection we should use (which also shows how difficult our situation is right now), I haven't seen a single line-up on here that doesn't have serious holes in it. Neither Guardiola nor Hiddink could get this group playing as well as the fans want, and an MLS coach certainly couldn't either.
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skangles
DC
Post #11
Tuesday May 7, 2013 11:49pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,972
Somebody needs to remind Chandler that now that he's cap-tied he no longer needs to get injured every time a US WCQ game shows up on the calendar!

In all seriousness, it's never good to have players go down with injuries but as others have said Dolo and Cameron should have us covered.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #12
Wednesday May 8, 2013 12:12am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 5,025
Original post from dolcem

Zusi is NOT international quality and he is NOT a winger. We've had to play him there because we don't have any other options. Gomez again is not a winger but we don't have any other options. Jones did not come out of the American system and doesn't really fit in with our players. He has never really played that well for us, and that includes under Coach Bob. Jozy gets no service because we have no decent attacking midfielders (aside from Dempsey, who has never exactly torn it up for the Nats, especially under Coach Bob, and is not really a creator or a distributor) and no way to get him the ball. This isn't Holland. And let's not forget that while he has scored lots of goals for AZ, he has missed tons of chances as well and had some very mediocre performances. Chandler has been inconsistent for us but some of that is a lack of familiarity with CONCACAF and of course there's the fact that this isn't his system. I think he should be given more time.

You can't view the national team as a set of individual players that the coach must get the maximum performance out of and then blame him when it doesn't happen. Sometimes the system is great and you get guys playing much better than they do for their club teams. Other times the players don't complement each other well or there are missing pieces and they won't play well. That's the case for us right now. While everyone has a different opinion on what tactics/roster selection we should use (which also shows how difficult our situation is right now), I haven't seen a single line-up on here that doesn't have serious holes in it. Neither Guardiola nor Hiddink could get this group playing as well as the fans want, and an MLS coach certainly couldn't either.


I think pretty much most analysts and professional players and coaches disagree with your assessment about Zusi.

He is in my mind international quality, and he has the ability to play winger. He has scored 3 goals and leads MLS yet again in assists(4) in the early part of the season.

Having an opinion is just that having an opinion. Your opinon is not fact.

Mojofc
Post #13
Wednesday May 8, 2013 12:12am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 680
Chandler tears the ACL of Gonzalez during training

Chandler years his own ACL during training

Coincidence? Do we know if Gonzalez was in Germany recently?

Kidding aside, really is too bad. His performances overall offensively have been poor for the US as some have said but I'm not willing to toss the guy. I'm still excited about this player going forward, hope a speedy recovery.
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MSantoine
Post #14
Wednesday May 8, 2013 1:09am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,186
Id say this pretty much puts Chandler on the gold cup team. He'll be off from now until july and can use gold cup as his preseason getting back into form for nuremburg

dolcem
Post #15
Wednesday May 8, 2013 6:57am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,045
Original post from 2tone

I think pretty much most analysts and professional players and coaches disagree with your assessment about Zusi.

He is in my mind international quality, and he has the ability to play winger. He has scored 3 goals and leads MLS yet again in assists(4) in the early part of the season.

Having an opinion is just that having an opinion. Your opinon is not fact.


Sure. Call me when Zusi makes it out of MLS or does anything at the international level (excluding CONCACAF opposition). Especially on the wing.
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