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2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #1
Monday May 6, 2013 9:15pm

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Bijev scored the game tying goal for Liverpool over the weekend.

Anyone think it's a little to late for him for the U-20's?

Should be interesting to see which players are called in for the Toulon Tourney, and which new players if any are brought in for the last WC camp.

I definitely think Bijev could still be in the picture as a target striker.

Here are the current #9's: Villarreal, Koroma, Salgado, Allen, and Bijev.

Players that can be used as a # 9: Morris and Rodriguez. Both seem to be used more as wide players for Ramos though.

Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #2
Monday May 6, 2013 9:24pm

Joined Dec 2012
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Good to hear..finally.. If he continues to score and get mins, im sure he'll get a shot.

thisguy2
Inland empire
Post #3
Monday May 6, 2013 10:07pm

Joined Dec 2012
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Have you guys read the MLS pay scale? Villareal is only gettin paid 45k yearly! Seems harsh on such a good player.... What do you guys think?
Thisguy2
2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #4
Monday May 6, 2013 10:23pm

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Original post from thisguy2

Have you guys read the MLS pay scale? Villareal is only gettin paid 45k yearly! Seems harsh on such a good player.... What do you guys think?


I have no problems with it. He was signed as an unproven player. I am sure if he continues to play well, score goals, and be a difference maker then his contract/pay will get restructured.

blaise213
San Francisco CA
Post #5
Monday May 6, 2013 10:27pm

Joined Sep 2012
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I wish i was getting paid 45K at 19

I was broke, in college playing sports for free

villyan bijev goal at 9:50 mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0y7FfVinxk&fe...

(he needs to do some bi cep work outs)

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #6
Monday May 6, 2013 11:07pm

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Yeah I was just about to comment about that too Blaise. It would have been nice to have been making 45K at 19. I imagine he is still living wiht his parents too. So really that 45K is all play money.

Riggity
Atlanta
Post #7
Tuesday May 7, 2013 12:31am

Joined Apr 2013
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Haha, 2tone, couldn't help but laugh when I read that Villareal will probably have his contract restructured if he continues to play well. Knowing the way MLS is, he is going to have to wait til his next contract to get a raise. Hopefully he tears it up in Turkey and someone swoops in for a transfer.

MSantoine
Post #8
Tuesday May 7, 2013 2:17am

Joined Nov 2012
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Speaking of MLS salaries, with the Union releasing the player salaries, it was great to see the minimum salary is up to 35k. I remember like 5 years ago it was round 12k or so

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #9
Tuesday May 7, 2013 3:47am

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Original post from Riggity

Haha, 2tone, couldn't help but laugh when I read that Villareal will probably have his contract restructured if he continues to play well. Knowing the way MLS is, he is going to have to wait til his next contract to get a raise. Hopefully he tears it up in Turkey and someone swoops in for a transfer.


Actually it happens quite a bit. If LA want to keep him for a few years they will have to restructure.

I hope he stays in LA for a few more years to be honest. He is getting quality first team minutes with a quality team in a decent league at a very important development time in his career. I am not big on young players that are still relatively unproven in MLS moving on to Europe to a league that is the same as MLS i.e. Denmark, Belgium or rotting away on the bench during important developing years.

Personally, I think Altidore would be further along in his development if he would have stayed in MLS a few more years, versus rotting on the bench and jumping to different leagues and teams every year.

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #10
Tuesday May 7, 2013 2:38pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 277
Original post from 2tone

Personally, I think Altidore would be further along in his development if he would have stayed in MLS a few more years, versus rotting on the bench and jumping to different leagues and teams every year.


I agree, players are so anxious to go play in Europe they sometimes miss out on years of playing time. The more touches you get the more you can develop your game. I like that players want to challenge themselves in better leagues. However, I don't think they should go unless there is a reasonable expectation of playing time.

CBoyd3142
Probably far from where you are...
Post #11
Tuesday May 7, 2013 2:43pm

Joined Aug 2012
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Anyone know if Bijev got in v. Man. U's U-21 team yesterday? Looks like he didn't start....
Toffee Fan....for the moment
guato-dany
Post #12
Tuesday May 7, 2013 3:51pm

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 78
Where do you all position bijev at the moment who do you all believe is ahead of him in the race for the forward spot for the u20 world cup and is john anthony brooks going to play for us

DougieB11
Avon, IN
Post #13
Tuesday May 7, 2013 4:51pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 49
I think Bijev is on the outside looking for the WC. But if Ramos calls him in for a camp then he could work his way back into the picture.

As far as Brooks goes he has stated that he will make his decision soon.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #14
Tuesday May 7, 2013 8:09pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,191
Original post from CBoyd3142

Anyone know if Bijev got in v. Man. U's U-21 team yesterday? Looks like he didn't start....


No....he has been coming off the bench for the most part so far, but Pool went down a man midway through the first half after Sama pulled a guy down just before getting to the 18.

dolcem
Post #15
Tuesday May 7, 2013 10:29pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,045
Original post from 2tone

Personally, I think Altidore would be further along in his development if he would have stayed in MLS a few more years, versus rotting on the bench and jumping to different leagues and teams every year.


Except that the MLS, especially back then, is not very good (yet) at developing players compared to other leagues.

Altidore wasn't "rotting on the bench" he was playing with some of the best players in the world in a league that develops great players under one of the top managers in the world. Pellegrini IMO is one of the top 5 managers in the world, certainly top 10. I bet he learned quite a bit there and it was better than staying in the MLS...I doubt he would have learned much more there. And lets not forget that these loans gave him the opportunity to play at a much higher level than the MLS. The Xerez loan was a problem only because they were doing so well (they didn't want to mess with success) and because he got injured. The Hull loan was a disaster but he had good opportunities (Olympiacos, St. Etienne) that he turned down thanks to Michael Bradley's advice. And I bet he learned plenty while on loan at Burzaspor. The Turkish league has produced some very good players over the years. More so than the MLS at that time.

While the MLS is getting much better at player development, it's still far behind other places in the world. Usually a player's best bet is to go to Europe (or Mexico/Argentina/Brazil of course) as soon as possible. If he's not ready to start, that's fine, he can play for the reserves, sit on the bench and train with the first team, or go on loan somewhere (including the MLS). Hopefully after a few generations pass through the youth academies and we figure out what we're doing, things will be different. But this kind of growth doesn't happen overnight. Not to mention that the MLS' style of play doesn't help, either.
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