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dolcem
Post #31
Sunday May 5, 2013 8:02pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from MSantoine

Again one of the reasons a Mexican team hasnt won copa is that there is no benefit. The semis and finals are at the same time as the playoffs. They arent going to tire out their stars in what is essentially an exibition at that stage for them


First of all, the Libertadores is by far the most prestigious tournament the Liga MX teams compete in and always has been. Second, how often do Mexican teams make it to the semis or the finals of the Libertadores? Hardly ever in its entire history. You're comparing it to a country whose teams have won more than even Brazil. Yeah they haven't won as many in recent years but they are simply much better than the Mexican teams and anyone who follows South American soccer knows it. The players that come out of there are just so much better and really there's just no comparison, there's still a big gap (although I could see it close a lot in the next decade).

Libertadores aside you won't find a single person outside of North America that thinks it's better than the Argentine league.
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MSantoine
Post #32
Monday May 6, 2013 2:23am

Joined Nov 2012
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Historically yes Argentina has had a better league than Mexico. But recently MX has sent some big players to Europe (Chicarito, Vela, Dos Santos, Reyes, Aquino, etc)

dolcem
Post #33
Monday May 6, 2013 5:06am

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from MSantoine

Historically yes Argentina has had a better league than Mexico. But recently MX has sent some big players to Europe (Chicarito, Vela, Dos Santos, Reyes, Aquino, etc)


And Argentina in recent years has sent Tevez, Messi (if you include Dos Santos you can include Messi), Aguero, Di Maria, Higuain, etc. Not saying Liga MX hasn't improved but I swear to you there is still quite a gap between it and Liga Argentina and everyone outside of North America agrees with me.
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rainORshine
Post #34
Friday August 30, 2013 3:02pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,770
with euro qualifying complete seems like good time to re-evaluate. mine is purely based on quality of soccer (so not considering infrastructure, finances, etc.)

just for discussion. (try not to get too upset)

La Liga
EPL
Bundesliga

Brazil
Italy
Portugal
Argentina
France

Russia
Netherlands
Mexico

Ukraine
Belgium
Turkey
Swiss
Greece
MLS

Bund. 2
Segunda
*Romania
*Austria
*Czech
Championship

* jump to next level if playing europa league as well (boyd)

jtsccr12
Post #35
Friday August 30, 2013 3:12pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 80
I would put Bund. 2 up with the Mexico group. If the groupings are ranked, I would put the MLS over the group we are in, but I still agree we are in the group. I would have Serie A in the top tier, but at the bottom. I would move France to the top of the group they are in and drop Argentina down to the Mexico group.

All pretty nit-pick... I agree with where you are coming from on most groupings.

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