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MSantoine
Post #106
Monday May 5, 2014 12:16pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from 2tone

Hmm. I don't think it will be much of a fight if Zelalem is playing regularly for Arsenal. Also Zelalem can play as a #8 as well.

I think there are two dark horse's 1) will Be Akale who is a very good playmaker/CAM. He Will be suiting up for Villarreal next year. 2) Joel Sonora who is set to break into Boca Juniors first team as a CM/CAM in the next year.

Also Hyndman doesn't play as a CAM. He is more of a box to box #8 now.

Then you have to look at Marc Pelosi who could break into either Liverpools first team in the next couple of years, or get loaned out to another EPL side. He is another creative CM type.

Then you also have Junior Flores who can play as a CAM or as an outside attacking middie.

Then you have Lletget another creative CM, Romain Gall another CAM/outside attacking middie, and possibly Lynden Gooch who can play at any attacking position.

If you look at the possible attacking CM's/CAM's for Jurgen in the next cycle, you start to understand that he is going to have a plethora of options.

Right now my projection of young CAM's/CM's Klinsmann will have at his disposal at some point during the 2018 WC cycle:

1. Gil
2. Diskerud
3. Lletget
4. Zelalem
5. Akale(Can play as a winger)
6. Sonora
7. Pelosi
8. Junior Flores(probably be used as an outside attacking middie)
9. Romain Gall
10. Hyndman
11. Rowe(I think he will be crowded out. All these players above him have more talent).

This not a ranking system.

Here is a list of projected Wingers/wide attackers that will be at Klinsmann's disposal heading into the 2018 WC cycle:

1. Nagbe
2. Joe Gyau
3. Josh Gatt
4. Brek Shea
5. Duane Holmes
6. Julian Green
7. Junior Flores
9. Lynden Gooch
10. Romain Gall
11. Gyasi Zardes
12. Haji Wright
13. Zach Pfeffer
14. Paul Arriola
15. Rubio Rubin
16. Shawn parker
17. Fagundez
18. Morris
19. Victor Pineda
20. Harry Shipp

No specific ranking

The possible talent in this next WC cycle could be ridiculous.


With this much talent its going to be real hard for JK to make roster decisions. Most of the 2014 guys: Zusi, Bedoya, Landon, Clint, Jones, Evans, Gonzo, Besler, Goodson, beasley are already at their peak/past their peak. None of them will be in their prime in 2018. How early will JK (or the next coach) start turning over the roster and bringing in new players. Wil we wait until 2017? Start right in 2015? Does he treat the 2015 Gold Cup like a must win event or start the integration process right away? Lots of questions that lots of people will think he's wrong no matter which way he chooses.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #107
Monday May 5, 2014 3:40pm

Joined Jul 2012
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You could also add Koroma and Yomba to the wide attacker position.

Percival
Post #108
Monday May 5, 2014 3:52pm

Joined Apr 2014
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So, any word on whether Zelalem secured citizenship this weekend? I'm a little surprised bigger media outlets (ESPN, etc.) aren't covering the story as it seems to be on par with Julian Green it terms of quality of player. That said, I'm sure the Green story garnered extra attention since he's being considered for Brazil and Zelalem's won't be for this cycle.

MSantoine
Post #109
Monday May 5, 2014 4:57pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from Percival

So, any word on whether Zelalem secured citizenship this weekend? I'm a little surprised bigger media outlets (ESPN, etc.) aren't covering the story as it seems to be on par with Julian Green it terms of quality of player. That said, I'm sure the Green story garnered extra attention since he's being considered for Brazil and Zelalem's won't be for this cycle.


Could be that even if he secures citizenship it doesn't guarentee he'll play for USA. He still has other options. They probably have an article ready to go if he ever plays for us

46and2
Post #110
Monday May 5, 2014 5:05pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 49
Original post from yodaddy101

Is Zelalem a CAM? because if he is, its going to be a huge fight to earn the starting position after Dempsey retires from the US. You have Hyndman, Gil, Powers, Zelalem, and Rowe really all in contention to play this position.Theres also probably a dark horse out there somewhere yet to make a mark for himself. Its going to be interesting to see who gets put above Bradley and (hopefully) Wil Trapp in Klinsmann's 4-2-3-1.


I think the interesting thing (at least one of many interesting things to watch in the midfield) for next WC cycle is that IMO, Gil could play next to Bradley as one o the 2. Obviously, he has a ways to go in playing both ways at that level, but I think he could come around to that role. Obviously there are more plug and play options like Trap, more pure holding options like Kitchen, and a lot of younger guys that might come into contention nearer the end of the 2018 cycle... but that would be a lot of technical ability in the midfield with Bradley and Gil having one of a number of pure attacking midfield options in front of them.

Another interesting thing... I get the feeling Jurgen is laying the ground work to mount a serious challenge on the Olympics. I can see him wanting to make the mark of having the first US team to win a bigtime competition and for us, the youth level is where we have the most chance of doing so. The Olympics stretch the "youth" moniker, but if you can put the right under 23 options together by adding a couple guys with star potential like Green and Zelalem to an already solid pool, who knows.

EKneezy
Post #111
Monday May 5, 2014 6:05pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,835
I just hope they can qualify. Winning is the cherry on top.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #112
Monday May 5, 2014 7:20pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 5,014
Original post from 46and2

I think the interesting thing (at least one of many interesting things to watch in the midfield) for next WC cycle is that IMO, Gil could play next to Bradley as one o the 2. Obviously, he has a ways to go in playing both ways at that level, but I think he could come around to that role. Obviously there are more plug and play options like Trap, more pure holding options like Kitchen, and a lot of younger guys that might come into contention nearer the end of the 2018 cycle... but that would be a lot of technical ability in the midfield with Bradley and Gil having one of a number of pure attacking midfield options in front of them.

Another interesting thing... I get the feeling Jurgen is laying the ground work to mount a serious challenge on the Olympics. I can see him wanting to make the mark of having the first US team to win a bigtime competition and for us, the youth level is where we have the most chance of doing so. The Olympics stretch the "youth" moniker, but if you can put the right under 23 options together by adding a couple guys with star potential like Green and Zelalem to an already solid pool, who knows.


I think it all depends on which competition the summer of 2016 Klinsmann see's as more important: Copa America or the Olympics (if they qualify). You could very well see Green, maybe Zelalem(if commits to the US) playing for the Copa America team instead of the Olympic team.

admsghs27
Post #113
Monday May 5, 2014 7:37pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Of course the Copa America will be more important to Klinsman it will most likely be a Fifa tournament and there will be better teams and competition. Most times in the Olympics you get some random teams and most don't have A squads. Is a sub 23.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #114
Monday May 5, 2014 8:58pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 5,014
Original post from admsghs27

Of course the Copa America will be more important to Klinsman it will most likely be a Fifa tournament and there will be better teams and competition. Most times in the Olympics you get some random teams and most don't have A squads. Is a sub 23.


Don't know. the Olympics have always been important for the US. Yes and most people understand it is a U-23 team.

blaise213
San Francisco CA
Post #115
Monday May 5, 2014 9:19pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 1,347
I'm hoping some legitimate information comes out soon.

If he is getting he citizenship, Zelalam will be in the World Cup camp. It's too coincidental that all this is happening right now.

TheTruth
Post #116
Monday May 5, 2014 10:02pm

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 245
Ah, conspiracy theorist. That would be quite a grenade - Zelalam in the 30. I don't see it though, with Green, Brooks, and Boyd probably in the 30.

venicebeachbull
Post #117
Monday May 5, 2014 11:35pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 91
Honestly though, why not include him in the 30 if naturalizes this week?

If it seriously is between Zelalam and say a Brad Davis, I say include the former.

Realistically we'll play about 15 - 17 or so guys at the WC anyway, let's experiment with the 30 and our future.

Truly no need for Wondo, EJ, Evans, Davis or both Edu & Beckerman.

Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #118
Tuesday May 6, 2014 12:19am

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,049
Original post from venicebeachbull

Honestly though, why not include him in the 30 if naturalizes this week?

If it seriously is between Zelalam and say a Brad Davis, I say include the former.

Realistically we'll play about 15 - 17 or so guys at the WC anyway, let's experiment with the 30 and our future.

Truly no need for Wondo, EJ, Evans, Davis or both Edu & Beckerman.


Have to agree..

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #119
Tuesday May 6, 2014 12:27am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 5,014
I don't know. If people are saying Gyau shouldn't be on the 30 man roster than there is no way Zelalem should be.

Hell I would put Zelalem, Green, and Gyau on the 30 man roster if I was the coach. Why not? Davis has shown he can't really play at the international level. Is there really a need for Edu, Beckerman, Jones, and Williams? Do it Klinsy. Might as well confuse our opponents before the WC even starts.

I would say Gil, but he is injured.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #120
Tuesday May 6, 2014 1:05am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,191
I think Williams is definitely underrated by the majority of US fans.

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