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yodaddy101
Post #91
Sunday May 4, 2014 7:25pm

Joined Aug 2013
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Is Zelalem a CAM? because if he is, its going to be a huge fight to earn the starting position after Dempsey retires from the US. You have Hyndman, Gil, Powers, Zelalem, and Rowe really all in contention to play this position.Theres also probably a dark horse out there somewhere yet to make a mark for himself. Its going to be interesting to see who gets put above Bradley and (hopefully) Wil Trapp in Klinsmann's 4-2-3-1.
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navi8132
New York
Post #92
Sunday May 4, 2014 7:30pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 3,122
Because all of those candidates get to play Arsenal 1st team minutes at 16 years old?

Jzaval01
Post #93
Sunday May 4, 2014 7:41pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,315
If they are good they get first team minutes. Arsenal is a club that likes investing playing time in the youth.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #94
Sunday May 4, 2014 8:04pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,450
Original post from yodaddy101

Is Zelalem a CAM? because if he is, its going to be a huge fight to earn the starting position after Dempsey retires from the US. You have Hyndman, Gil, Powers, Zelalem, and Rowe really all in contention to play this position.Theres also probably a dark horse out there somewhere yet to make a mark for himself. Its going to be interesting to see who gets put above Bradley and (hopefully) Wil Trapp in Klinsmann's 4-2-3-1.


Hmm. I don't think it will be much of a fight if Zelalem is playing regularly for Arsenal. Also Zelalem can play as a #8 as well.

I think there are two dark horse's 1) will Be Akale who is a very good playmaker/CAM. He Will be suiting up for Villarreal next year. 2) Joel Sonora who is set to break into Boca Juniors first team as a CM/CAM in the next year.

Also Hyndman doesn't play as a CAM. He is more of a box to box #8 now.

Then you have to look at Marc Pelosi who could break into either Liverpools first team in the next couple of years, or get loaned out to another EPL side. He is another creative CM type.

Then you also have Junior Flores who can play as a CAM or as an outside attacking middie.

Then you have Lletget another creative CM, Romain Gall another CAM/outside attacking middie, and possibly Lynden Gooch who can play at any attacking position.

If you look at the possible attacking CM's/CAM's for Jurgen in the next cycle, you start to understand that he is going to have a plethora of options.

Right now my projection of young CAM's/CM's Klinsmann will have at his disposal at some point during the 2018 WC cycle:

1. Gil
2. Diskerud
3. Lletget
4. Zelalem
5. Akale(Can play as a winger)
6. Sonora
7. Pelosi
8. Junior Flores(probably be used as an outside attacking middie)
9. Romain Gall
10. Hyndman
11. Rowe(I think he will be crowded out. All these players above him have more talent).

This not a ranking system.

Here is a list of projected Wingers/wide attackers that will be at Klinsmann's disposal heading into the 2018 WC cycle:

1. Nagbe
2. Joe Gyau
3. Josh Gatt
4. Brek Shea
5. Duane Holmes
6. Julian Green
7. Junior Flores
9. Lynden Gooch
10. Romain Gall
11. Gyasi Zardes
12. Haji Wright
13. Zach Pfeffer
14. Paul Arriola
15. Rubio Rubin
16. Shawn parker
17. Fagundez
18. Morris
19. Victor Pineda
20. Harry Shipp

No specific ranking

The possible talent in this next WC cycle could be ridiculous.

skangles
DC
Post #95
Sunday May 4, 2014 8:34pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,443
I am really shocked that this happened. I have no idea how Zelalem's father retained his US residency while living in London but in any event, it's great news for the USMNT.

tylercocinas
Post #96
Sunday May 4, 2014 9:36pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,151
Original post from skangles

I am really shocked that this happened. I have no idea how Zelalem's father retained his US residency while living in London but in any event, it's great news for the USMNT.


His dad has been spending time in both London and DC

dfw_fan
DfW
Post #97
Monday May 5, 2014 2:55am

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 999
I think he is a #10

platter
Jacksonville, FL
Post #98
Monday May 5, 2014 3:21am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 97
As an Arsenal fan, I've seen him play 3 times. Definitely a #10, although could be a #8 as well. We should be very excited to have him, very talented, sees the pitch wonderfully...One of those players that looks in control on the ball. He's the most hyped youth prospect at arsenal in a long time, probably go back to Fabregas to find the last.

blaise213
Post #99
Monday May 5, 2014 3:35am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,994
Original post from Chrisou101

There's no way he's going to brazil, wait til the next cycle.


If Zelalam gets his citizenship in the next couple days and decides he wants to play for the US, klinsmann will call him into the World Cup camp.

Chrisou101
Post #100
Monday May 5, 2014 3:55am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 626
Original post from blaise213

If Zelalam gets his citizenship in the next couple days and decides he wants to play for the US, klinsmann will call him into the World Cup camp.
He might go to the world cup camp, but it's highly unlikely that he goes to Brazil.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #101
Monday May 5, 2014 5:03am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,450
We all might be getting ahead of ourselves. Yes when he gets US citizenship he will be able to rep the USA, but he may still opt for Germany. But in saying that Zelalem along with Green have a chance to really create something special for the US in the next WC cycle. They have a chance to really boost American soccer to the next level. American athletes have some of the highest paid sponsorship deals out of all athletes world wide.

Nike would love to sponsor world class "American" soccer players.

I think it would be naÔve to think that Zelalem just wants to get US citizenhip for the hell of it. He doesn't really need to if he wasn't seriously considering repping the United States.

All I know is this makes for an interesting fall after the WC. Those friendlies may have a lot of meaning for them going into the next WC cycle.

Fraser31
Charleston, South Carolina
Post #102
Monday May 5, 2014 5:09am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 1,408
I just think it's crazy how different the team will be in two years or so.

skangles
DC
Post #103
Monday May 5, 2014 5:18am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,443
We should have a dangerous Olympic squad in Rio. If Dempsey is out of the MNT picture by the time Copa America comes around he'd be a great addition to the Olympic team a la Brian McBride.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #104
Monday May 5, 2014 5:43am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,450
Original post from skangles

We should have a dangerous Olympic squad in Rio. If Dempsey is out of the MNT picture by the time Copa America comes around he'd be a great addition to the Olympic team a la Brian McBride.


If they qualify. Remember a lot of these kids are going to be in first team squads in Europe when Olympic qualifying happens for CONCACAF, and European teams are reluctant to let these guys go for the qualifying tournament. Unless CONCACAF changes the qualification process to coincide with FIFA dates and not a single tournament format not on a FIFA date.

I have heard that COCNCACAF is throwing around the idea of going back to a round robin format with actually qualifying games on FIFA scheduled dates again for both the U-20 and Olympic qualifying process. That would aid the US in being able to actually field some of their best players. The US is increasingly outsourcing most of their best players to Europe even more than Mexico. The fact that the US isn't able to play their best players in these qualifying tournaments really hurts the US and CONCACAF as a whole.

If the US was able to have Danny Williams, Timmy Chandler, and Alfredo Morales for the last Olympic qualifying tournament, I have a feeling the US would have definitely qualified with ease.

Chrisou101
Post #105
Monday May 5, 2014 5:53am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 626
Original post from 2tone

If they qualify. Remember a lot of these kids are going to be in first team squads in Europe when Olympic qualifying happens for CONCACAF, and European teams are reluctant to let these guys go for the qualifying tournament. Unless CONCACAF changes the qualification process to coincide with FIFA dates and not a single tournament format not on a FIFA date.

I have heard that COCNCACAF is throwing around the idea of going back to a round robin format with actually qualifying games on FIFA scheduled dates again for both the U-20 and Olympic qualifying process. That would aid the US in being able to actually field some of their best players. The US is increasingly outsourcing most of their best players to Europe even more than Mexico. The fact that the US isn't able to play their best players in these qualifying tournaments really hurts the US and CONCACAF as a whole.

If the US was able to have Danny Williams, Timmy Chandler, and Alfredo Morales for the last Olympic qualifying tournament, I have a feeling the US would have definitely qualified with ease.
OMG Yes! I want concacaf to formulate the schedule into a round robin format. What happens if your best team gets knocked out and you ended up sending weak teams to the world cup or the Olympics, that would just hurt concacaf as a whole. I would be so happy should the US gather all it's good players and qualify. We didn't deserve to go to the Olympics in London cuz we couldn't get out of our group stage. We were underprepared and most of the players on that squad are college players with no prof experience. But yes, I hope concacaf changes the schedule into a fifa date and make the qualifying tourney a round robin format.

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