RECAPS
EXTRA TIME
YANKS ABROAD LOCKER ROOM
 
recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #316
Tuesday August 18, 2015 9:55pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,467
Original post from admsghs27

Wait so Scottish second division ??? He is better of coming to USL..


Another dumbfounding statement from someone who should know better....but I guess that's kinda your thing, isn't it?

Starting for a second division Scottish team is leaps and bounds better than starting for a USL side. The shop window in Europe is always bigger than the one over here, so if he does well at Rangers and is pivotal to their promotion this term, he'll be on a lot of short lists for next summer and/or will be in a great position to get first team minutes with the Arsenal 1st team.

admsghs27
Post #317
Tuesday August 18, 2015 10:47pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
What makes you think he will start right away ??? I'm sure he will get playing time but in all honesty the Scottish 2nd division is bad heck their firt division is about the same as nasl or USL. If you take out Celtic

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #318
Tuesday August 18, 2015 11:01pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,467
The same could be said for USL or NASL, no guarantee he'd be starting right away but he's young and hungry. If it were a Rangers team that was never relegated and still had all it's higher-level talent from a couple of years ago, I'd be more inclined to agree with you...but when all your stars leave and you're basically winning lower tier leagues with your reserves/academy team, it's not a far-fetched assumption that a highly-touted Arsenal academy product will be able to beat out a Rangers academy midfielder for the starting spot.

stone88
Post #319
Tuesday August 18, 2015 11:02pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,515
I'd love to see a loan to MLS or the Championship. Much better quality teams in both than the scottish second division. Either way, I just wanna see him playing against men. Talented youngster are good, but even the most mediocre of men teams will make boys look like boys.

TheTruth
Post #320
Tuesday August 18, 2015 11:19pm

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 950
I just want to see him play against men. Green too. Not convinced those guys will have the durability.

snipes87
Cleveland, Ohio
Post #321
Wednesday August 19, 2015 12:07am

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 893
Yeah, big euro clubs don't loan players to MLS. A) because it's not good and B) it's hard to keep an eye on them all the way across the pond.
If you don't love it, leave it, USA #1
rotosportsbook
Post #322
Wednesday August 19, 2015 2:49pm

Joined Aug 2013
Total Posts: 34
And just to point out, if Rangers is so talented how come they finished in 3rd in the Scottish 2nd division last year?

This team bares little resemblance to the Scottish power of 6 years ago. Most of their staff are mediocre (based on resume), not necessarily any better than one would see at a youth Arsenal setup, and the current roster is no better. The only positive I see to this move is the exposure to European clubs.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #323
Wednesday August 19, 2015 3:09pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,467
Fulham, Charlton and Birmingham City are all mentioned...any one of which would be a better option than Rangers IMO. Fulham is probably preferable so he and Hyndman can start to develop a deeper understanding.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/f...

hamsamwich
Post #324
Wednesday August 19, 2015 3:14pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,176
@rotobook- because as fancy as his passing is, all he does off the ball an while defending is sort of trot and stand around. Not a hustler whatsoever if his u20 WC performance is what to go off of. He's like a young Dempsey in that regard. But GZ is going to be playing a more responsible position, CM.

That Mark Warburton is a good manager not sure what you meant by that staff comment. Nobody is Wenger, but Warburton likes good soccer too. It's a good move.

@tonto- the style of play in Scotland is more like what GZ is used to... Instead of the physical Championship or the over reliant on athleticism but can't strong together 4 passes NASL or USL.

Gedion has a lot to prove from here on out. He could be the next Green- i.e. Passed by others at a monster club.

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #325
Wednesday August 19, 2015 5:11pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 1,322
Original post from recycledhumans

Fulham, Charlton and Birmingham City are all mentioned...any one of which would be a better option than Rangers IMO. Fulham is probably preferable so he and Hyndman can start to develop a deeper understanding.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/f...


Fulham would not be a better option. Hyndman isn't getting any first team minutes there (very few) and Zelalem is not any better than Hyndman at this point. Unless you think it's good for Hyndman and Zelalem to practice together and get some Reserve matches together and maybe a Cup game or Championship match here and there.

Charlton and Birmingham City would be much better than Fulham. Any of them would be better than Fulham.

Rangers are essentially playing a U-23 team so far this year, Essentially it's an Olympic squad with mostly U-23 players and like 3 over 23 guys. With many of those coming from EPL/Championship level sides, as well as their own academy. More than half (7) of the guys who have started so far this year are brand-new to Rangers (2 loaned from Tottenham, 3 signed from Wigan, 1 signed from Manchester United).
The other 4 starters 2 have been there since before the demotion (one is from their own academy and is 20), one is Kenny Miller signed last year on a free from MLS. The other is just a well traveled (at only 27) guy who has played all through the lower levels of England and first division of Scotland.

As far as their manager Warburton took Brentford in his first year and gained promotion to the Championship. At the time he was notified in March that he would not be the manager this year (despite being Championship manager of the month twice and being voted London Manager of the year) Brentford was also in prime position to challenge for promotion (playoffs) to the EPL.
So the dude can manage. He is completely rehauling Rangers this year (his first year there), and making them much better style wise.

Lets also not forget that the Rangers averaged 28,000 people last year at their games. In the scottish 2nd division. Which would have been 2nd in the Championship and 13th in the Premier League. IE that is an atmosphere that isn't going to come close to being duplicated at a league 1 side or most anywhere else.
www.westpalmbeachchurchofchrist.com
blaise213
Post #326
Wednesday August 19, 2015 5:49pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,963
Original post from hamsamwich

because as fancy as his passing is, all he does off the ball an while defending is sort of trot and stand around. Not a hustler whatsoever if his u20 WC performance is what to go off of. He's like a young Dempsey in that regard. But GZ is going to be playing a more responsible position, CM.



With Jermaine Jones almost healthy, I wouldn't mind seeing a Zelalem/Jones pairing and leaving the defending to Jermaine

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #327
Wednesday August 19, 2015 6:35pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 1,322
Have you seen Jermaine play? Since when is he ever satisfied with just sitting back and defending like Beckerman? The guy loves to get forward and that is a major part of his game.
www.westpalmbeachchurchofchrist.com
recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #328
Wednesday August 19, 2015 6:52pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,467
@USAGunner - salient points for sure, but I still like Fulham just for having Hyndman and him getting that time together. They're looking like they'll be the midfield tandem for the Olympic qualifying campaign (I'm sure that's an arguable point) and the more time they can get together now, the better it'll be in the long run for both of them.

Wenger might not be pleased if his decision is to go to Fulham, but I'm sure Herzog and/or JK will be enthusiastic.

Mojofc
Post #329
Wednesday August 19, 2015 7:04pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 966
Hyndman isn't playing a lot right now because he won't sign a contract with Fulham FYI, not necessarily because they don't feel he's ready.
Rain, rain, go away Come again another day - USMNT, MUFC
USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #330
Wednesday August 19, 2015 8:26pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 1,322
Original post from recycledhumans

@USAGunner - salient points for sure, but I still like Fulham just for having Hyndman and him getting that time together. They're looking like they'll be the midfield tandem for the Olympic qualifying campaign (I'm sure that's an arguable point) and the more time they can get together now, the better it'll be in the long run for both of them.

Wenger might not be pleased if his decision is to go to Fulham, but I'm sure Herzog and/or JK will be enthusiastic.


Trust me I am ALWAYS on board with American's playing together. It has been a talking point of mine for over a year. But I just don't think playing on the reserves together does either much good for their career. Sure I think it could help in the short term for the Olympic Qualifying, but not long term.

Personally I think right now with where they are at developmentally BOTH would be better served somewhere where they are are playing regularly in the first team. Maybe Fulham can Loan Hyndman to Charlton?
www.westpalmbeachchurchofchrist.com
Page 22 of 27
«« First « Previous 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26  Next » Last »»

With Jesse Marsch and David Wagner at the helms of teams in the top flight, YA will cover their exploits this season.
RECENT POSTS
YA Transfer Tracker
Yanks Face Relegation in England
Tale of Two Young Yanks in Europe
Wagner Nears Premier League Goal