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richieJkulesaNY
Post #46
Tuesday December 24, 2013 8:23pm

Joined Jun 2012
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Original post from dolcem

Good point. If we are ever in a situation where our only two choices are Chandler and a drug addict, we should take Chandler.


Haha read your post in which that was my response to. You'll have a laugh.

admsghs27
Post #47
Tuesday December 24, 2013 8:30pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,024
Comparing chandler to a drug addict lol or is someone in the is roster a drug user. Anyways RB spot is wide open in my opinion with 4 players battling for the position.

richieJkulesaNY
Post #48
Tuesday December 24, 2013 8:58pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 933
Original post from dolcem

He might not reveal it but it certainly isn't "private." It's the fact that Chandler isn't committed enough to the team. We sure as hell aren't going to win through talent, it's going to be with grit and guts, and with that in mind I'm not sure if Chandler should be on the team. He might be faster and better at going forward than Cherundolo but Steve is obviously much better defensively. And who do you want on that team, someone with three World Cups under their belt, who bleeds red, white, and blow? Or some German guy who is more interested in his club team? If Steve isn't up for it I would probably rather have Cameron. We don't need Chandler badly enough to take him. The disadvantages (negatively affecting team chemistry) outweigh the advantages (having yet another RB).


For those that didn't want to scroll back and so there's no confusion going forward, this is what I was referring to when I said I'd rather have Chandler than a drug addict. It was a joke/jab at Dolcem's spelling error.

navi8132
Post #49
Tuesday December 24, 2013 9:02pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,904
Well I mean Heisenberg's blue stuff is blue...top purity! (I am aware blow is usually just ref to cocaine)

dolcem
Post #50
Tuesday December 24, 2013 9:03pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,034
Original post from richieJkulesaNY

For those that didn't want to scroll back and so there's no confusion going forward, this is what I was referring to when I said I'd rather have Chandler than a drug addict. It was a joke/jab at Dolcem's spelling error.


HAHAHAHAHA oh man I read over my post a bunch of times and had no idea what you were talking about...I've been having quite a good time in Mexico this winter and I guess I had a little Freudian slip. Hilarious.
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2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #51
Tuesday December 24, 2013 9:05pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 4,926
Original post from Kamphgruppe

Am I the only one who was not confused? Klinsmann started him in a WCQ vs. a Concacaf opponent and he was the worst player on the pitch. His club form went south as well. I think people forget that Chandler played very poorly for a long stretch at the end of last season. He stopped getting callups, no big secret. His form and consistency have improved, time to give him another look. His next step is to translate his club sucess to the nats. Then we start looking at him as maybe taking the starting job.


Chandler was called up this past summer for the qualifiers, but pulled out due to supposedly hamstring problems. That pissed Klinsmann off, and since then we haven't seen Chandler. Really the way Chandler has been playing for the past 3 months there is no excuse for him to be left off come the March friendly. There really wasn't an excuse to leave him off of the November friendly roster, other than that Klinsmann does hold grudges. Chandler is superior to Evans, Cameron is superior to Evans, and when Dolo is fully in form he is superior to Evans at RB. Evans did play well in some games, but he was badly exposed by a Championship Winger when the US played Scotland. Evans couldn't handle that wingers speed, nor his quick thought process. Evans is a good MLS player that has always been a fringe USMNT player. I just only hope the coaching staff finally makes that connection. I would rather see a greenhorn in Yedlin at RB over Evans.

bbakerxyz
Post #52
Wednesday December 25, 2013 12:19am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 237
As long as Chandler is starting regularly in Germany he'll go to the WC. He was in Klinsy's doghouse, which is fine, and it takes a while to get out. It's been a while.

It's hard to take anyone in this forum seriously who says they question Chandler's motivation or his commitment to the team. Let's see, World Cup, billions of people watching, biggest games of his career, chance to make many millions if he performs well, . . . Yeah, I'm sure he'd just half-ass it if he got in the game. He'd probably be thinking of the pre-season for his club team. Some of you guys should hear yourselves.

navi8132
Post #53
Wednesday December 25, 2013 12:29am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,904
But no one thought that. No one thinks his motivation to perform at WC will be low. It's that he is not respectful enough to even feign interest in the USA. He can go eff himself. It's not all 100% about winning (don't tell me thats why they keep score).

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #54
Wednesday December 25, 2013 12:46am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 276
Original post from 2tone

Chandler was called up this past summer for the qualifiers, but pulled out due to supposedly hamstring problems. That pissed Klinsmann off, and since then we haven't seen Chandler. Really the way Chandler has been playing for the past 3 months there is no excuse for him to be left off come the March friendly. There really wasn't an excuse to leave him off of the November friendly roster, other than that Klinsmann does hold grudges. Chandler is superior to Evans, Cameron is superior to Evans, and when Dolo is fully in form he is superior to Evans at RB. Evans did play well in some games, but he was badly exposed by a Championship Winger when the US played Scotland. Evans couldn't handle that wingers speed, nor his quick thought process. Evans is a good MLS player that has always been a fringe USMNT player. I just only hope the coaching staff finally makes that connection. I would rather see a greenhorn in Yedlin at RB over Evans.


I agree with most of what you have said here. I would still like someone to step up and take the spot from Evans. I think that Chandler has made a good start, his next step is January camp. I don't think that Klinsmann intends to start Cameron at RB or this wouldn't even be a discussion.

tylercocinas
Post #55
Wednesday December 25, 2013 4:14pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 734
Original post from Kamphgruppe
I think that Chandler has made a good start, his next step is January camp.


Only MLS and Scandinavian players get called into January camp. The other leagues don't have a winter break. Thus it seems Timmy's next (and only) move is the March FIFA date.

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #56
Wednesday December 25, 2013 4:25pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 276
Original post from tylercocinas

Only MLS and Scandinavian players get called into January camp. The other leagues don't have a winter break. Thus it seems Timmy's next (and only) move is the March FIFA date.


Yep, forgot about that. Perhaps he should have been brought in in November.

bbakerxyz
Post #57
Wednesday December 25, 2013 7:56pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 237
Original post from navi8132

But no one thought that. No one thinks his motivation to perform at WC will be low. It's that he is not respectful enough to even feign interest in the USA. He can go eff himself. It's not all 100% about winning (don't tell me thats why they keep score).


I'm not buying this either but maybe it's just me. I never had a problem with him taking a while to commit to the US initially (I know other people here had a problem with this, but I never got that either). If Julian Green changed his mind and jumped over to the US I'd be happier than a pig in shit.

Anyway, now that Chandler has locked himself into the US I haven't seen any disrespect. I guess others have. Faking interest in the US? I don't see it. I never saw him saying/acting as if he was disappointed with the US, would rather be repp'ing Germany, was too good for our team, etc. Are you guys saying that he doesn't want to play for the US? I don't see it. His self-interest is aligned with committing to the team so that he can go to the WC. And of course, he fully committed to the team and the WC with his 1st cap. I'm just saying the same shit over and over again. What better way to further his personal career then going to the WC? Do you see any more commitment from JJ and Fabian? I don't.

dfw_fan
DfW
Post #58
Wednesday December 25, 2013 8:25pm

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 414
Original post from bbakerxyz

I'm not buying this either but maybe it's just me. I never had a problem with him taking a while to commit to the US initially (I know other people here had a problem with this, but I never got that either). If Julian Green changed his mind and jumped over to the US I'd be happier than a pig in shit.

Anyway, now that Chandler has locked himself into the US I haven't seen any disrespect. I guess others have. Faking interest in the US? I don't see it. I never saw him saying/acting as if he was disappointed with the US, would rather be repp'ing Germany, was too good for our team, etc. Are you guys saying that he doesn't want to play for the US? I don't see it. His self-interest is aligned with committing to the team so that he can go to the WC. And of course, he fully committed to the team and the WC with his 1st cap. I'm just saying the same shit over and over again. What better way to further his personal career then going to the WC? Do you see any more commitment from JJ and Fabian? I don't.


+1000

dolcem
Post #59
Wednesday December 25, 2013 10:46pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,034
If people were posting in reference to me, I apologize, I think I came off a bit strong. I don't know what Chandler's deal is. Only Chandler, Klinsmann, and the other players do. My guess, based on the fact that Klinsmann dumped him out of the blue and there were rumors about his fear of flying (and the fact that he skipped a qualifier due to an 'injury' but played for his club right afterwards), is that he didn't want to fly to North America to play in CONCACAF qualifiers. If that is the case, than do we want him on the team? He could sure help us out at RM, but do we need him that badly? Of course he wants to play during the World Cup, but do we want players that want to skip dinner (CONCACAF qualifiers) and get desert (the World Cup)?

I don't know the answers to those questions and I don't think any of us do (if you do, then let us know). Klinsmann is the only one close enough to the situation to make an informed decision, and considering how team chemistry/motivation stuff is his specialty, I trust his judgement.
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EKneezy
Post #60
Thursday December 26, 2013 5:42am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,776
I've really wanted him in since October. I thought for sure he'd get that November call up because he was in really good form and was healthy.. It was a perfect time to integrate him back in. Plus it's not like he has the option of playing for Germany. From what I've seen and read, he wants back in. Klinsmann hasn't contacted him but that should change. Chandler at right back is a much better option than Evans who is a serviceable player but should be nowhere near the starting lineup unless some serious stuff goes down. Although he'd be a good DM.

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