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snipes87
Cleveland, Ohio
Post #31
Tuesday December 24, 2013 7:04am

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Dolo isn't our best option. What is he? 55? Coming off a huge injury? Evans is a better option for Brazil.
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Dimo
Post #32
Tuesday December 24, 2013 8:25am

Joined Nov 2013
Total Posts: 277
Original post from dolcem

He might not reveal it but it certainly isn't "private." It's the fact that Chandler isn't committed enough to the team. We sure as hell aren't going to win through talent, it's going to be with grit and guts, and with that in mind I'm not sure if Chandler should be on the team. He might be faster and better at going forward than Cherundolo but Steve is obviously much better defensively. And who do you want on that team, someone with three World Cups under their belt, who bleeds red, white, and blow? Or some German guy who is more interested in his club team? If Steve isn't up for it I would probably rather have Cameron. We don't need Chandler badly enough to take him. The disadvantages (negatively affecting team chemistry) outweigh the advantages (having yet another RB).


But deploy him as a RM and this suddenly becomes a different conversation. Chandler has expressed his desire to play for us. Furthermore he has expressed his confusion as to why he has been excluded for close to a year now. I don't look at it as, "who do I want: Cameron Cherundolo or Chandler. I want all three on the roster to Brazil.

dfw_fan
DfW
Post #33
Tuesday December 24, 2013 1:24pm

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 999
Original post from dolcem

We don't need Chandler badly enough to take him. The disadvantages (negatively affecting team chemistry) outweigh the advantages (having yet another RB).


Unless there is concrete proof, one cannot state that Chandler is affecting team chemistry... it could very well be that Klinsmann is giving Chandler time to establish at FCN.

richieJkulesaNY
Post #34
Tuesday December 24, 2013 1:32pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 1,016
Original post from dolcem

He might not reveal it but it certainly isn't "private." It's the fact that Chandler isn't committed enough to the team. We sure as hell aren't going to win through talent, it's going to be with grit and guts, and with that in mind I'm not sure if Chandler should be on the team. He might be faster and better at going forward than Cherundolo but Steve is obviously much better defensively. And who do you want on that team, someone with three World Cups under their belt, who bleeds red, white, and blow? Or some German guy who is more interested in his club team? If Steve isn't up for it I would probably rather have Cameron. We don't need Chandler badly enough to take him. The disadvantages (negatively affecting team chemistry) outweigh the advantages (having yet another RB).


I think I speak for everybody when I say that I'd take Chandler over a drug addict.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #35
Tuesday December 24, 2013 3:56pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,356
Chandler has stated multiple times the past few months that he wants badly back on the USMNT.

From his comments there is not a lack of commitment. I want Cameron, Dolo, and Chandler on the WC team.

Cameron can play multiple positions CB, RB, and DM, so with that in mind I think Cameron makes taking 4 CB's obsolete. Allows Klinsmann to take an extra attacker.

navi8132
New York
Post #36
Tuesday December 24, 2013 4:08pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 3,100
Chandler wants to go to the world cup. That's his commitment. Let him and Brek Shea watch the world cup from their televisions.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #37
Tuesday December 24, 2013 4:45pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,356
Original post from navi8132

Chandler wants to go to the world cup. That's his commitment. Let him and Brek Shea watch the world cup from their televisions.


Ah it's easy to be an armchair cynic. Most players want to go to a WC which is the extent of their commitment. C'mon most players could care less about the patriotism card. You really think Johannsson decided to rep the US because of some kind of blind patriotism to the US, a country he barely lived in? No, he made the one-time switch because he wanted to play in a WC. I am not saying that Johannsson doesn't have a good connection to the US, but his decision was mostly based on playing in a WC. And that doesn't bother me.

I have no problems with having Chandler on the WC team. Grit and hard work can only get so far you need the talent to push through eventually. And to say it bluntly Chandler has much more talent then Evans.

For me my defense would be this for the WC: Dolo, Chandler, Cameron, Gonzo, Besler, Goodson, Beasley. I would say Brooks, but he needs to be starting and playing well for Hertha at the start of second half of the season. Chandler can play RB, LB, RW, and in a pinch at CB. Cameron can play RB, LB, DM, and CB. Those two players value to the USMNT is their versatility. This will allow Klinsmann to select more attackers.

navi8132
New York
Post #38
Tuesday December 24, 2013 5:10pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 3,100
We actually don't have any proof that Chandler can succeed at the international level... He is wildly inconsistent on the club level, and an important odd factor is that he seems to play poorly in the heat, which will be prominent in Brazil. At least Aron J pretends to care, and pretends to want to give his all for the USA (and it shows on the pitch). Chandler barely even cares enough to fake it, his responses have been "its not my fault if USA fans think I'm not committed." I want someone who will at least pretend, its not "good", but it is better than Chandler.

Dimo
Post #39
Tuesday December 24, 2013 6:43pm

Joined Nov 2013
Total Posts: 277
Original post from navi8132

We actually don't have any proof that Chandler can succeed at the international level... He is wildly inconsistent on the club level, and an important odd factor is that he seems to play poorly in the heat, which will be prominent in Brazil. At least Aron J pretends to care, and pretends to want to give his all for the USA (and it shows on the pitch). Chandler barely even cares enough to fake it, his responses have been "its not my fault if USA fans think I'm not committed." I want someone who will at least pretend, its not "good", but it is better than Chandler.


Stop getting your feelings hurt because he's not the exact type of person you want him to be. He's talented and can make us better. That's enough.

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #40
Tuesday December 24, 2013 7:06pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 806
I would like to see Chandler in January camp. I am glad to see he is performing better. He had a bad run of club form and his last start with the Nats he was the worst player on the pitch. He is playing better now and with more consistency so it's time to bring him back and see how he does. In no way should the starting job be his yet. I think he is working for a backup spot currently.

blaise213
Post #41
Tuesday December 24, 2013 7:11pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,926
IMO

Cameron #1
Chandler #2

Sorry but no old man cherlundolo or brad evans

Benhamin13
Washington, DC
Post #42
Tuesday December 24, 2013 7:17pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 35
I would rather see Brad Davis (or a surprise) than Brad Evans.
Chandler (versitility)
Cameron (versitility)
F. Johnson (same)
Besler
Gonzo
Brooks
Beasley

dolcem
Post #43
Tuesday December 24, 2013 7:32pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,805
Original post from Dimo

But deploy him as a RM and this suddenly becomes a different conversation. Chandler has expressed his desire to play for us. Furthermore he has expressed his confusion as to why he has been excluded for close to a year now. I don't look at it as, "who do I want: Cameron Cherundolo or Chandler. I want all three on the roster to Brazil.


Yeah I agree with that (except for the part about him being confused, surely Klinsmann has made it clear to him in private). We really could use him as a RM. Perhaps I'm being a little harsh on Chandler. I don't know exactly what has gone on and why he hasn't played. I can only speculate. But remember, Klinsmann was very hot on this guy and then out of nowhere dropped him for a long time, picking Brad Evans instead. I trust he must've had a damn good reason to do so. What was it? None of us know at this point. The rumors are that it has to do with Chandler's fear of flying...if that's true, I don't like it. He knew he would be flying a lot when he decided to play for a national team on a different continent. So why all of the sudden did this issue come up now? My guess is he wanted to skip some WC qualifiers. And if that's the case, I'm not sure if I want this guy on the team. IMO a second-string player is not worth disrupting the team chemistry. Having said that, JK is the only one that knows, and at this point I'll trust his judgement.

Original post from dfw_fan

Unless there is concrete proof, one cannot state that Chandler is affecting team chemistry... it could very well be that Klinsmann is giving Chandler time to establish at FCN.


You are right, I am just speculating. But I really doubt that it has to do with club PT. I think it's obvious that Chandler did something that pissed off Klinsmann. He went from being a starter to not receiving any more call-ups very suddenly, and there were lots of rumors about him not wanting to play in WC qualifiers.
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dolcem
Post #44
Tuesday December 24, 2013 7:54pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,805
Original post from richieJkulesaNY

I think I speak for everybody when I say that I'd take Chandler over a drug addict.


Good point. If we are ever in a situation where our only two choices are Chandler and a drug addict, we should take Chandler.
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Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #45
Tuesday December 24, 2013 8:13pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 806
Original post from dolcem

Yeah I agree with that (except for the part about him being confused, surely Klinsmann has made it clear to him in private). We really could use him as a RM. Perhaps I'm being a little harsh on Chandler. I don't know exactly what has gone on and why he hasn't played. I can only speculate. But remember, Klinsmann was very hot on this guy and then out of nowhere dropped him for a long time, picking Brad Evans instead. I trust he must've had a damn good reason to do so. What was it? None of us know at this point. The rumors are that it has to do with Chandler's fear of flying...if that's true, I don't like it. He knew he would be flying a lot when he decided to play for a national team on a different continent. So why all of the sudden did this issue come up now? My guess is he wanted to skip some WC qualifiers. And if that's the case, I'm not sure if I want this guy on the team. IMO a second-string player is not worth disrupting the team chemistry. Having said that, JK is the only one that knows, and at this point I'll trust his judgement.

You are right, I am just speculating. But I really doubt that it has to do with club PT. I think it's obvious that Chandler did something that pissed off Klinsmann. He went from being a starter to not receiving any more call-ups very suddenly, and there were lots of rumors about him not wanting to play in WC qualifiers.


Am I the only one who was not confused? Klinsmann started him in a WCQ vs. a Concacaf opponent and he was the worst player on the pitch. His club form went south as well. I think people forget that Chandler played very poorly for a long stretch at the end of last season. He stopped getting callups, no big secret. His form and consistency have improved, time to give him another look. His next step is to translate his club sucess to the nats. Then we start looking at him as maybe taking the starting job.

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