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Bshredder
Post #1
Friday March 16, 2012 3:06pm

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Boro's Seb Hines wants to switch from England to play for the USA.

I'm not sure he starts over Gooch or Boca but Hines is playing very well lately. Boro want to extend him to a long-term deal.

He's only 23 and most of the US central defenders are older than that.

It would be a nice pickup

usry723
Augusta, GA
Post #2
Friday March 16, 2012 3:17pm

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Don't know much about him but CB is our thinnest position. Can't hurt.

Is he a better option than Goodson at this point?
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Desi
Philadelphia
Post #3
Friday March 16, 2012 3:51pm

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If an option for the US at any position is a starter in the English Championship, we might as well follow another sport.

Bshredder
Post #4
Friday March 16, 2012 4:01pm

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Original post from Desi

If an option for the US at any position is a starter in the English Championship, we might as well follow another sport.


The top of the Championship is better than the SPL (where the US captain and starting central midfielder play).

There is overlapp between the top of the Championship and the bottom of the EPL.

Look at Zak Whitbread. He was in League One just a few years ago. If he would stay healthy, he'd be on the US team.

Also, I think Boro will be promoted either this year or next year.

PS.. Hines has played in the EPL before too. He's only 23 too. That's younger than most US central defenders

Desi
Philadelphia
Post #5
Friday March 16, 2012 5:40pm

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Original post from Bshredder

Hines has played in the EPL before too.


So did Johann Smith.

23 is not young in soccer. He should be established as a starter in a top division by now to be really considered viable.

Bshredder
Post #6
Friday March 16, 2012 6:32pm

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To be useful, let's look at the US central defense pool and see where Hines stacks up

1) Onyewu - 29 - Sporting Lisbon - injured frequently
2) Bocanegra - 32 - Rangers - club crumbling
3) Ream - 24 - Bolton - relegation fight
4) Goodson - 29 - Brondby - poor season in Denmark
5) Parkhurst -28 - Nordsjælland - good season but he's playing RB for his club
6) Geoff Cameron -26- Houston
7) Omar Gonzalez -23- LAG- done for year with ACL
8) Michael Orozco - 25- San Luis - is terrible and doesn't play

Ideally all of the US central defenders would be in the Champions League but this is the reality.

Hines could be in the best club situation other than Gooch, who is hurt. I'm not sure Bolton is better than Boro.

Desi
Philadelphia
Post #7
Friday March 16, 2012 6:37pm

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It doesnt matter where Boca plays. He's established. he's not gonna get better whether hes at rangers, or the Swiss 9th division.

wheres whitbread?

and I'd drag DeMerit's corpse in or put Mo back there before considering that kid

Bshredder
Post #8
Friday March 16, 2012 6:54pm

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Original post from Desi

It doesnt matter where Boca plays. He's established. he's not gonna get better whether hes at rangers, or the Swiss 9th division.

wheres whitbread?

and I'd drag DeMerit's corpse in or put Mo back there before considering that kid


Whitbread should be on there but he's always hurt. Always. Every single time. It was frustrating to watch at Millwall.

If you'd rather have Jay or Mo on the backline than Hines, you're insane.

krelmatrix
Munich
Post #9
Friday March 16, 2012 7:26pm

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Original post from Desi

If an option for the US at any position is a starter in the English Championship, we might as well follow another sport.


We aren't stacked enough to have that attitude yet. Maybe in 5-10 years.

Desi
Philadelphia
Post #10
Friday March 16, 2012 11:25pm

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Original post from Bshredder

Whitbread should be on there but he's always hurt. Always. Every single time. It was frustrating to watch at Millwall.

If you'd rather have Jay or Mo on the backline than Hines, you're insane.


Do you have magic Middlebrough live stream you watch every week that the rest of us dont know about? You know what youd get with both Edu and DeMerit (who by your own list would still be like 47th options)

a 23 year old starting in the Championship does nothing for me. If he was 18, maybe.

Bshredder
Post #11
Wednesday March 21, 2012 1:58pm

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Reports were that he looked great against West Ham yesterday

AmeriToon
Post #12
Tuesday June 26, 2012 2:35pm

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Boca needs to be dropped, he's lost pace and seems to just get lost. Gooch should NEVER be allowed near the squad, let alone put on the shirt! Has never recovered since that knee injury - not that he was ever all that. They're established alright, as crap players past their sell-by.
If we're looking at any MLS player, then we certainly shouldn't be dismissing a nPower player. As I think that most MLS teams would struggle to be mid-table mediocrity especially over a 46 game league season add to it Carling Cup, FA Cup and whatever other domestic crap that England has. I think that's rather ignorantly arrogant to be so dismissive.
Ream seemed a bit suspect in the last Norwich game I saw him in, but he seemed to have better distribution from the back that our established hoof-meisters Boca & Gooch.
Goodson has looked good as has Cameron.

chastro
Charlotte, North Carolina
Post #13
Tuesday June 26, 2012 6:19pm

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Let be honest, our CBs are just dreadful no matter how we look at it
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Footyskillz
Arlington, VA
Post #14
Wednesday June 27, 2012 2:13pm

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It would be great to see him in August. This could be a big year for him if he helps Middlesbrough get to the EPL.
USMNT, Porto, and Bundesliga fanatic - T: @gouldinho_j
Bshredder
Post #15
Wednesday June 27, 2012 2:46pm

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Hines is a good central defender. His problem has always been injuries.

He's healthy now

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