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thisguy2
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Post #31
Tuesday April 2, 2013 1:20am

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 224
Just as long as Chivas keeps playing good and beating their opponents... I'm starting to like Chivas USA and actually thinking about becoming a fan of theirs.

They don't need to move to another state, people need to be a bit more open minded when it comes down to what they want. People need to stop being bias against a team that wants more Latino players.

I hope Chivas shuts up all these negative reports and wins the MLS cup or becomes a top 5 team... Just my opinion and not trying to trash anyone's opinion...
Thisguy2
blaise213
Post #32
Tuesday April 2, 2013 1:27am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,921
[quote]Original post from Lilshmike

The only way Chivas USA could actually make a move for the best would be to move to a part of California that has the market for a team and doesnt have one (San Diego for example), or to move to the southwest somewhere (like Phoenix).

I already said this at least 100 times.

San Diego will not work for MLS. Im from there. They are the biggest fair weather fans on the planet. If you move a team there and they start to suck, the fans will not show up.

Also, a latino themed team would be a disaster for SD. You will alienate other cultures and they will not support it or show up.

San Diego city council is a joke and it would take years for them to approve any stadium or MLS team.

The only way this would work is if the SD chargers moved to LA

Lilshmike
Post #33
Tuesday April 2, 2013 1:44am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,177
@blaise213

Exactly my point. Chivas USA has screwed themselves over and the only way they can get out of it is to completely form a new team that is not Mexico-affiliated and to relocate.

Either that or magically find an area where all the stars are aligned and tremendous luck is in their favor

San Diego COULD work, but only realistically if they became a "new" team. Not only that, but it would need to wait until the other markets got their team because San Diego isnt very high on the MLS priority list.

admsghs27
Post #34
Sunday April 14, 2013 7:53pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
They had been playing good lately and still their attendance is AWFUL worst in mls, the official attendance was around 8,000. They lost last night but the problem with them is their fans. They don't have any fans, They give away free tix at their games, i think only half of the people in there paid for their tix which are like 10$. I don't think they will ever have a big fan base even if chicharito was there people still wont go watch them. I think vergara should sell the team, have them relocate in the southeast somewhere with a new brand.

stone88
Post #35
Sunday April 14, 2013 8:57pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,513
How about Sacramento? Chivas Sacramento.

USAfan90
Los Angeles
Post #36
Monday April 15, 2013 6:05pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 51
Chivas USA can move withing the LA county Area. LA is a big and they can move maybe to City of Industry which close to East LA. An area where are lots of Mexican and latinos live. I'm for once been saying the same thing, they need to move away from the HD center and relocate to other city of county. San Diego will be great but Cholos of Tijuana are becoming the SD team. Plus if they really are looking to define themself with the Latino community they need to change their name. (Latino is not just Mexican but other country such El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, Chile, Argentina, Peru and many more) and for them to call themself Chivas USA is just a way to try to get Chivas of Guadalajara fan to Identified with the CHIVAS COLOR of Jersey and the Logo, but that is not the case unless they make this team of real true Mexican team a mini Mexican National team. With players born in Mexico and Mexican/American. But that it will never going to happen unless the mls make exception and forget about the discrimination law. Until them Chivas USA is going to have a small fan base in LA. That's my own opinion.
USAfan90
Lilshmike
Post #37
Monday April 15, 2013 6:37pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,177
LA is a big city, but it is dominated by the Galaxy. Nothing is going to change that. Chivas USA is hemorrhaging money because they have to lease out the HD center so they can play there. It would only be worth while if they were getting fans to go to the games, but it is (and has been) pretty clear that they don't and probably never will have a strong fan base in LA. Regardless of where they move in LA, that wont change. The Galaxy would still dominate the area and they will struggle.

Not only that, but they would still have to move away from the Mexican affiliation. Fans in Mexico wouldn't want to see a Mexico Galaxy team. Likewise, fans in the USA don't care to see a Chivas USA team. It completely alienates any American roots and only appeals to an incredibly small demographic in this country. Chivas USA currently is only serving those who are Mexican or Mexican-American who also happen to be fans of Chivas Guadalajara. Chelsea fans in the States wouldn't want to support a Manchester United USA team. Similarly, Mexicans that live in LA who are Club America fans probably wouldn't support Chivas USA

blaise213
Post #38
Monday April 15, 2013 7:38pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,921
Original post from stone88

How about Sacramento? Chivas Sacramento.


Hell no?

If you been following up on that topic. They want to put an MLS stadium 20 mins south of Sacramento in a town called Elk Grove. Its a soccer mom and suburban community. Its a city of 2 long boulevards of grocery stores, costco's and gas stations. You would never a DP player that would want to live there.

Sacramento downtown would be perfect for a Division 2 team

blaise213
Post #39
Monday April 15, 2013 7:54pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,921
Original post from USAfan90

LA is a big and they can move maybe to City of Industry which close to East LA. An area where are lots of Mexican and latinos live.

San Diego will be great but Cholos of Tijuana are becoming the SD team. Plus if they really are looking to define themself with the Latino community they need to change their name.


Let me try to say this without hurting all of your feelings.

I've lived in LA and SD. I am half white/half hispanic. I grew up in upper middle class. Why the hell would I want to be around a mostly latino demographic in East LA? Seriously what appeal does that have to a person who never grew up around ghettos or latinos ?????? How would this appeal to white, black, asian, middle eastern people, etc ??

San Diego Xolos are becoming the SD team ??? You mean all the mexicans living in SD? because I know all the other cultures aren't rooting for them or could care less.

You do realize if you want to cater to a mostly hispanic demographic, you re gonna lose out on the $$$$ Chivas USA is an example of that. What Ethnic groups makes the most $$$ in San Diego ??? Caucasians..... What would make you think they would spend money to watch a mostly latino team ???? They Wouldn't !

You re not getting a team in SD for a long time. Ive already explained that enough. Sell them, move them to AZ, rebrand and put together a team that caters to all of the demographics...

Im all for an expansion team in San Francisco. But guess what: You would need a chinese player, japanese player, italian player, brazilian player, and a mexican player to appeal to that city. You want more fans.... bring in some english and irish players.... more fans bring in some middle eastern players.... Get my point

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #40
Monday April 15, 2013 10:31pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,467
@blaise213, I think you're grossly oversimplifying the appeal of local soccer. When I first started watching FC Dallas, do you think I cared about how many white players were on the team before I started supporting them? Do you think I was less likely to support them when I found out that Steve Morrow filled our squad with South and Central Americans?

I agree, that having players of certain nationalities would be likely to draw in a specific demographic, but think about teams like Seattle and Portland, or the proposed Indianapolis team...how many season tickets were sold before any details of the team were announced?

I think you're much more likely to see a lot of local support when you bring in local players, no matter their heritage. I would be just as excited to see a young black or hispanic/latino player coming out of the inner city, coming through the youth ranks and making it to the senior side as I would be a white kid from the same area or surrounding suburbs with a similar career progression.

blaise213
Post #41
Monday April 15, 2013 11:32pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,921
Original post from recycledhumans

I would be just as excited to see a young black or hispanic/latino player coming out of the inner city, coming through the youth ranks and making it to the senior side as I would be a white kid from the same area or surrounding suburbs with a similar career progression.


I think you missed the point

You want to build a team around 1 demographic and the crowd represents that demographic, you will alienate other people.

How bad would Chivas USA fail if you put them in upscale downtown San Diego or mission valley with a mexican themed team ? That wouldnt fly to well !

USAfan90
Los Angeles
Post #42
Monday April 15, 2013 11:38pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 51
Original post from blaise213

I think you missed the point

You want to build a team around 1 demographic and the crowd represents that demographic, you will alienate other people.

How bad would Chivas USA fail if you put them in upscale downtown San Diego or mission valley with a mexican themed team ? That wouldnt fly to well !
USAfan90
admsghs27
Post #43
Monday April 15, 2013 11:59pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
Vergara should aell the team, and have them relocate in the southeast or oklahoma or something with a new brand.. Similar to the seattle supersonics, now their oklahoma thunder..

admsghs27
Post #44
Wednesday April 24, 2013 7:14am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jorge-vergara-pr...

It seems like vergara is gonna sl cd guadalajara,.which also includes chivas USA.. The richest man in the world Carlos slim is expected to purchase them. the question is whats gonna happen with chivas USA.? Will he sell them therefore relocating and having a new brand. Will he invest in them? A new location, stadium for them.. Is gonna be very intetesting..

admsghs27
Post #45
Wednesday April 24, 2013 7:18am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jorge-vergara-pr...

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