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recycledhumans
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Post #61
Tuesday August 6, 2013 7:51pm

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Believe me, I do see your point. But in a WCQ cycle, we should all want our national team players to be at their peak physical condition and skill level going into the tourney, and it's really hard to see that being the case when our best players have been in the MLS for a few months before they start in Brazil.

If i were the league, I'd incentivize the teams to allow this type of loan, if only for WCQ/Final cycles and if there's no tangible results in the next 2 or 3 cycles then by all means, scrap the program and go back to business as usual.

I also think it speaks volumes for the quality of our league, when one of our top players can go out on loan to a top tier league and fold right in to the first team.

MSantoine
Post #62
Tuesday August 6, 2013 8:37pm

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Original post from recycledhumans

I don't understand why we take those MLS loanees back for preseason training...I mean, don't get me wrong, younger guys that need the time with the team to get those familiarities down, but players like Duece, LD and Goodson should go on loan for the remainder of the European season so that they'll be more used to facing the higher tier opposition that we'll find from game 1 in the WC. The better quality of the pitches is an automatic bonus, as the chances of becoming injured solely by running on the turf will be negligible, and there aren't nearly as many wreckless tackles as in our league. The milder temps will also help in injury prevention.

I can understand why the younger guys wouldn't fit into that category, but the guys that are MNT starters are certainly professional enough to fold back into their MLS teams after their loan spells and the WC, even if they miss preseason training.


Your pretty much suggesting that they get zero time off so by the time the world cup rolls around they will have been playing club and country soccer for about 17 months straight

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #63
Tuesday August 6, 2013 9:39pm

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Original post from MSantoine

Your pretty much suggesting that they get zero time off so by the time the world cup rolls around they will have been playing club and country soccer for about 17 months straight


Yes, essentially, I am.

Considering that this will be the last WC for the three I mentioned, as well as Boca if he's chosen, I don't think that it's asking too much of the players.

Of course, it's their choice whether or not to do this and wouldn't fault any of them for not doing it...but I can imagine a display of discipline and determination of that sort would go a long way to ensuring yourself a ticket to Brazil.

And obviously, they'd get at least a couple of weeks off after the tourney before rejoining their MLS sides for the playoff push.

Jzaval01
Post #64
Saturday December 14, 2013 2:53am

Joined May 2013
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http://www.americansoccernow.com/articles/sou...
Seems like Fulham.

admsghs27
Post #65
Saturday December 14, 2013 2:55am

Joined Nov 2012
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yea that's old news. he said it a few days ago.
Watch him play better in epl than in mls.
Mls has changed since he was here is a very competitive league.

dunlopp9987
Post #66
Saturday December 14, 2013 3:56am

Joined Mar 2013
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Original post from admsghs27

yea that's old news. he said it a few days ago.
Watch him play better in epl than in mls.
Mls has changed since he was here is a very competitive league.


Are you trying to say that the quality of play is better in the MLS than the Premier League?
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admsghs27
Post #67
Saturday December 14, 2013 4:02am

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Original post from dunlopp9987

Are you trying to say that the quality of play is better in the MLS than the Premier League?

You have to learn how to read. Never said that. Just saying Mls is much much more competitive than it was when demps was here. No player in the world could think they could just walk in this league and tear it up like nothing.
But i will say this tho some teams in mls are better than some teams in the EPL

snipes87
Cleveland, Ohio
Post #68
Saturday December 14, 2013 4:15am

Joined Jul 2013
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Original post from admsghs27

You have to learn how to read. Never said that. Just saying Mls is much much more competitive than it was when demps was here. No player in the world could think they could just walk in this league and tear it up like nothing.
But i will say this tho some teams in mls are better than some teams in the EPL


No. Just no.
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dunlopp9987
Post #69
Saturday December 14, 2013 4:44am

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 2,647
Original post from admsghs27

You have to learn how to read. Never said that. Just saying Mls is much much more competitive than it was when demps was here. No player in the world could think they could just walk in this league and tear it up like nothing.
But i will say this tho some teams in mls are better than some teams in the EPL


You're right. Messi or Ronaldo would be shaking in their boots at the sight of Nat Borchers and Corey Ashe.
COYB!!
admsghs27
Post #70
Saturday December 14, 2013 5:09am

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Everyone knows they wont come thats why i.dint even bother mentioning them. After thier 30s maybe.. And ill say this tho mls is a more physical league than la liga.. But of course dunnlopp their better, more technique. Like I said im sure.Dempsey will score more goals in 20 games I the epl than in mls. And everyone here knows is true.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #71
Saturday December 14, 2013 6:32am

Joined Jul 2012
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As long as he doesn't get injured.

Fulham will be in need of an offensive spark for a month and a half.

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #72
Monday December 16, 2013 12:31am

Joined May 2013
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He'll report on January 1st.

Fulham will need it. Got whooped by Everton yesterday been a bad year for them.

MSantoine
Post #73
Monday December 16, 2013 4:12am

Joined Nov 2012
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Good move by Dempsey. Fulham has to throw him in there and give him miutes as they are desperately trying to avoid relegation. Could be the confidence he needs to start 2014 on the right foot

4bc
North Carolina
Post #74
Monday December 16, 2013 8:20am

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 23
Solid move. Plenty of incentive for him to have a stellar run and come back into MLS (and into the WC ramp-up) in top form. Could be an epic year that produces the high-mark for his career if all goes well and I think he gets that.

@ admsghs27... last thing you want to do on these boards is question the supremacy of English football or, god forbid, stand in the way of deprecating MLS. The single biggest problem with the growth of the sport in this country is self-loathing fans.

skangles
DC
Post #75
Monday December 16, 2013 9:00am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,448
I think Clint will do well and regain his form he lacked in the MLS. It's a great situation for him, he will be with a team that's under pressure to perform yet the team hasn't performed well to date so he won't individually hold the burden. Plus in the Premiership he's just another player. I have to think that the hype around him being the face of the MLS got to him a bit in Seattle.

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