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andrewvorce
Springfield, MO
Post #1
Wednesday March 14, 2012 2:50am

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I can't say that I'm on the band wagon because I've been a Duece fan since he was still rapping about infrared beams, but MAN has this guy come a long way.

I've said this before to plenty of friends, but Clint Dempsey is the US's attitude. Compare him with Cristiano Ronaldo for his stature in Portugal, compare him with the importance of Gareth Bale in Tottenham's line up: Clint Dempsey is a game changer.

I know a lot of people say that Landon Donovan is the end all be all for US outfielders, but I'd take Dempsey in the line up first every day of the week.

Bshredder
Post #2
Wednesday March 14, 2012 2:52am

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I can't say how tired I am of the Dempsey vs. Donovan debate. Both are necessary for the team to play at its potential

andrewvorce
Springfield, MO
Post #3
Wednesday March 14, 2012 3:07am

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I would agree, but I've never heard it be a Pro-Dempsey conversation. Feb 29th v Italy, trying to get a watch party, one guy responded "Donovan isn't playing, no one will score, worthless to watch."

And who scored?

Point proven.

usry723
Augusta, GA
Post #4
Wednesday March 14, 2012 6:21am

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I'm not going to lie. I was talking so much crap about Dempsey around the 1st two games of the Confed Cup. He just looked terrible in those games and I had enough. But something clicked in that Epygt match. Ever since then he's been our best player for club and country.

Donovan v. Dempsey is pointless. Especially since one gives his heart and soul for his country and the other hasn't played for them in 9 months. I'd give Dempsey the captain's armband ASAP if I were Klinsmann.

As far as his club football is concerned, I hope takes the risk and goes to a better club. His whole career he's took risks, no need to stop now.
Country > Club
PubCrawling199
North Carolina
Post #5
Wednesday March 14, 2012 2:44pm

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Original post from usry723

As far as his club football is concerned, I hope takes the risk and goes to a better club. His whole career he's took risks, no need to stop now.


I definitely agree. My initial, long lasting problem with him is that he sometimes looks lazy on the field, but looking at his stats and his heat map to see where and how much he moves around, that appearance is very deceptive. I'd wager that he gives Michael Bradley a run for his money as the hardest working player in the pool.

I hope he stays in England. I've been hoping that the Arsenal rumors would hold some water, especially since they sent Arshavin out and there were rumors of Hazard coming. But now with Podolski on the way in, RvP looking like he's wanting to leave, and Hazard seeming less interested, I don't know if it's my favorite idea anymore.
Hooray!
Desi
Philadelphia
Post #6
Wednesday March 14, 2012 9:36pm

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Deuce > Cakes. Simple.

Bshredder
Post #7
Wednesday March 14, 2012 10:03pm

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Original post from Desi

Deuce > Cakes. Simple.


Except when you go back to the 2009 Hex and you look at every single goal the US Scored.

Landon either scored, assisted, or created the play in 81% of the US team's goals in that tournament.

That is something that is unheard of.

Then you also realize that Landon Donovan will finish his career with 150 caps, 50 goals, and 50 assists. No one in the entire history of soccer has done that... not just American soccer but no one else in the history of the game ANYWHERE has done that.

Dempsey grabs the headlines by virtue of playing in the EPL, but what Donovan has done for the US internationally is amazing.

andrewvorce
Springfield, MO
Post #8
Friday March 16, 2012 3:18am

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Original post from Bshredder

Dempsey grabs the headlines by virtue of playing in the EPL, but what Donovan has done for the US internationally is amazing.


And fair play to that point, but I'm talking about RIGHT NOW. I'd give Dempsey the arm band in a heart beat.

Desi
Philadelphia
Post #9
Friday March 16, 2012 6:40pm

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Original post from Bshredder

Landon either scored, assisted, or created the play in 81% of the US team's goals in that tournament.


What does 'created the play' mean?

And what do those numbers come out to when you take out PKs?

And for further apples to apples, what do the numbers look like when both played the same game?

krelmatrix
Munich
Post #10
Friday March 16, 2012 7:30pm

Joined Aug 2011
Total Posts: 56
Original post from andrewvorce

And fair play to that point, but I'm talking about RIGHT NOW. I'd give Dempsey the arm band in a heart beat.


Captaincy has nothing to do with who's the best player. And neither Dempsey nor Donovan should be the captain.

xbhaskarx
NorCal
Post #11
Tuesday July 10, 2012 7:40am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 3
Original post from andrewvorceFeb 29th v Italy, trying to get a watch party, one guy responded "Donovan isn't playing, no one will score, worthless to watch."

And who scored?

Point proven.


Wait what do you think this proves? It may say something about the type of person you associate with, or what you consider a proven point, but that's about it.

Original post from andrewvorceI'd give Dempsey the arm band in a heart beat.


What a bizarre non sequitur... has Dempsey ever worn the captain's arm band at any point in his professional career?

I'm not even sure what's being discussed in this thread, but I'll go with Dempsey best US player right now, Donovan best national team player we've ever had, and neither one for captain (Bradley) but certainly Donovan well before Dempsey on that list.

admsghs27
Post #12
Sunday January 20, 2013 6:52pm

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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL DEMPSEY 93RD MIN......... spurs 1 man u 1..... What a game, and amazing atmosphere... Greaaat goal...

Severn13
Lakenheath, United Kingdom
Post #13
Sunday January 20, 2013 6:54pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 10
Him and Lennon were the hardest working on the pitch today without a doubt. WELLLLLL deserved point and goal from dempsey!

skangles
DC
Post #14
Sunday January 20, 2013 7:03pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,443
Original post from Severn13

Him and Lennon were the hardest working on the pitch today without a doubt. WELLLLLL deserved point and goal from dempsey!


I absolutely agree. Dempsey has been in great form as of late and I hope that he is able to perform like this in Honduras.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #15
Sunday January 20, 2013 7:10pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,410
Well....I was hoping Deuce played well but I wanted Tottenham to lose.....oh well. 1 pt is better than 3.

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