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rainORshine
Post #136
Tuesday November 19, 2013 12:00am

Joined Dec 2012
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Original post from 2tone

So with Robert Huth out Tony Pulis elects to not play Geoff Cameron at CB. Cameron is on the bench. Pulis doesn't either see Cameron as a CB or doesn't trust him at CB.

This is Klinsmanns starting CB, but he can't start at CB for Pulis?

That doesn't bode well for the USMNT.

Another reason why I think Klinsmann will start looking at bringing in Brooks soon.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Brooks and Gonzo as the starters really soon for the USMNT.

I can't trust a player that never plays CB, and has been more of a sub lately, to be a starter for the USMNT. I like Geoff, but I stated this was going to be a problem when he was sold to Stoke City.


oh, there it is

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #137
Tuesday November 19, 2013 12:23am

Joined Jul 2012
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Original post from rainORshine

oh, there it is


Congrats on finding a post of mine from what 7 or 8 months ago.

I don't necessarily trust Cameron, nor do I trust Gonzo either, but Klinsmann will play Cameron where he wants to play him, so essentially the debate is over.

I don't know what point you are trying to prove?

coverby
Post #138
Tuesday November 19, 2013 12:55am

Joined Oct 2012
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I think he is trying to prove why he should be the manager and not Klinsmann

Red
NY
Post #139
Tuesday November 19, 2013 1:00am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 417
Cameron should start in the midfield as a holding midfielder covering for Bradley. Bradley can push the game forward and with Jones on the field it limits his abilities.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #140
Tuesday November 19, 2013 1:14am

Joined Jul 2012
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I have had my doubts about JK's tactics and plan as have every fan, but his record with the USMNT the past year has alleviated a lot of my doubts. Regardless what happens tomorrow the USMNT will end with the its best ever winning percentage in a calendar year. He has won 15 games in a single calendar year, won the gold cup witht the USMNT winning every game, finished top with 22 points in the HEX, and has driven the USMNT on a 12 game winning streak. Most of his tactics, player personnel, starting 11's, and in game tactics and decisions have been spot on. I can't criticize JK for much at all in 2013.

The_Footballer
Post #141
Tuesday November 19, 2013 2:43am

Joined Nov 2013
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Original post from coverby

I think he is trying to prove why he should be the manager and not Klinsmann

This made me chuckle. That's pretty much exactly what I think every time I read the threads regarding roster selections

Jzaval01
Post #142
Tuesday November 19, 2013 7:51am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,556
Original post from 2tone

I have had my doubts about JK's tactics and plan as have every fan, but his record with the USMNT the past year has alleviated a lot of my doubts. Regardless what happens tomorrow the USMNT will end with the its best ever winning percentage in a calendar year. He has won 15 games in a single calendar year, won the gold cup witht the USMNT winning every game, finished top with 22 points in the HEX, and has driven the USMNT on a 12 game winning streak. Most of his tactics, player personnel, starting 11's, and in game tactics and decisions have been spot on. I can't criticize JK for much at all in 2013.


Yeah.. that what makes any of his decision hard to criticize until they fail (Eddie Johnson, LW) and say he doesnt know what he is doing. The man has gotten us wins like no other. During that 12 win streak I was forgetting what actually losing felt like lol. No other choice but trust Jurgen even if some of the choices he make bother us.

dolcem
Post #143
Tuesday November 19, 2013 8:17am

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from The_Footballer

This made me chuckle. That's pretty much exactly what I think every time I read the threads regarding roster selections


+1

Get used to it. Welcome to the forum.
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bbakerxyz
Post #144
Tuesday November 19, 2013 3:44pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 237
Original post from 2tone

Well, JK is going to play Cameron where he likes him the most. Debate over.


Agree. Kind of a dumb thread. And that's saying something on this site.

Cameron's role on the team is pretty clear. He's a utility guy. End of discussion. He's a lock to go to Brazil, but he's not going to start unless something bad happens. He's cover for CM, CB, and RB.

skangles
DC
Post #145
Thursday December 5, 2013 2:31am

Joined Jan 2013
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I just watched the Austria game and Cameron looked like the man of the match to me. He's a critical player for the MNT as he can play RB, CB or CM and he plays all of them well. Great instincts on both ends, excellent passing.

I don't agree with you bbakerxyz, I think Cameron will be in the starting 11 by the time the World Cup starts.

RB is no longer a major concern with Cameron and Lichaj proving themselves at the position in the national team jersey, plus with Dolo back at Hannover RB could be one of our stronger positions in Brazil.

Dam
Chandler, AZ
Post #146
Thursday December 5, 2013 4:06am

Joined Aug 2013
Total Posts: 40
The USMNT is still a work in progress heading into the winter break. IMHO we are still a couple of positions shy of being ready to take on whomever we draw in the group round.
RB - Cameron, Lichaj, Dolo, Chandler need to stake a claim and make it theirs. I just don't trust Evans against what we're likely to have to face in Brazil.
LB - Fabian, Lichaj, or Chandler need to take over for Beasley. He's been good in CONCACAF but his inability to shield & play physical will be a problem against the European & African teams. Good as a left sided backup....but not a full time starter in defense.
CM - Jones needs to find his form. Hopefully his surgery during the winter gets him playing well again. if not would hope he's not paired with Bradley....give MB a full time #6 (Cameron, Edu, Williams, Beckerman) and let him play the 8.
LM - If Fabian is LB...we need someone to take the LM slot. Shea could be the sub, but would still like to see a out & out winger to compete with Donovan, Bedoya, Zusi for the starting roll.
As of right now......
-------------------Jozy--------------
--------------Dempsey----------------
--Donovan---------------------Bedoya--
-----------Jones-------Bradley---------
Fabian-----Besler------Gonzalez------Cameron
--------------Howard-----------------

rainORshine
Post #147
Tuesday May 27, 2014 4:57pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,773
i think cameron is the biggest personnel issue heading into brazil. i dont think he is a legit CB option

here is what i wrote on this thread march 2013:
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hate to break it to people, but cameron is a new and improved version of j. spector. until he finds a position, he is fairly useless other than as a back-up option
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well, he has found a position... RB. chandler is better

as for CB, cameron has VERY little experience in his entire career playing CB - essentially from summer 2011 to summer 2012 with houston. even less experience at itnl level. dont really care what his 'natural' position is... you dont step into central defense in group of death and look competent without having regular reps with club. his positioning and decision making is spotty at best and he will make mistakes. why did he lose the job after honduras? because he was a poor option. he is not suddenly a good option now

on the other hand john brooks has been playing regular CB at hertha berlin for last 2 seasons. start brooks with either besler or gonzo. forget ukraine. erase it from your memory. start him v azer and turkey, then decide

brooks-besler/gonzo

if cameron starts in brazil i predict he has a hand in at least 2 goals conceded and we do not look very good in general. the margins are tiny and cameron is not the best option

ok have fun

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #148
Tuesday May 27, 2014 5:42pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 208
Original post from rainORshine

i think cameron is the biggest personnel issue heading into brazil. i dont think he is a legit CB option

here is what i wrote on this thread march 2013:
-
hate to break it to people, but cameron is a new and improved version of j. spector. until he finds a position, he is fairly useless other than as a back-up option
-

well, he has found a position... RB. chandler is better

as for CB, cameron has VERY little experience in his entire career playing CB - essentially from summer 2011 to summer 2012 with houston. even less experience at itnl level. dont really care what his 'natural' position is... you dont step into central defense in group of death and look competent without having regular reps with club. his positioning and decision making is spotty at best and he will make mistakes. why did he lose the job after honduras? because he was a poor option. he is not suddenly a good option now

on the other hand john brooks has been playing regular CB at hertha berlin for last 2 seasons. start brooks with either besler or gonzo. forget ukraine. erase it from your memory. start him v azer and turkey, then decide

brooks-besler/gonzo

if cameron starts in brazil i predict he has a hand in at least 2 goals conceded and we do not look very good in general. the margins are tiny and cameron is not the best option

ok have fun


Perhaps...but Cameron is a much better player than Spector.

The best option may be Besler/Brooks. But I doubt we see that tonight. Klinsmen likes Cameron and Besler. They will start tonight and if they play well will continue to be the first choice pairing, unless Klinsman see's something that he doesn't like. They can even have a mistake or 2 tonight that lead to a goal, but if overall he things they have good potential, he'll give them every opportunity to be the first choice.

If they play like garbage and Klinsman doesn't like it, he'll replace which ever one is worse (to him) with Brooks/Gonzo in the 2nd half and go from there.
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cudevil
Post #149
Tuesday May 27, 2014 6:03pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 206
Original post from rainORshine

i think cameron is the biggest personnel issue heading into brazil. i dont think he is a legit CB option

here is what i wrote on this thread march 2013:
-
hate to break it to people, but cameron is a new and improved version of j. spector. until he finds a position, he is fairly useless other than as a back-up option
-

well, he has found a position... RB. chandler is better

as for CB, cameron has VERY little experience in his entire career playing CB - essentially from summer 2011 to summer 2012 with houston. even less experience at itnl level. dont really care what his 'natural' position is... you dont step into central defense in group of death and look competent without having regular reps with club. his positioning and decision making is spotty at best and he will make mistakes. why did he lose the job after honduras? because he was a poor option. he is not suddenly a good option now

on the other hand john brooks has been playing regular CB at hertha berlin for last 2 seasons. start brooks with either besler or gonzo. forget ukraine. erase it from your memory. start him v azer and turkey, then decide

brooks-besler/gonzo

if cameron starts in brazil i predict he has a hand in at least 2 goals conceded and we do not look very good in general. the margins are tiny and cameron is not the best option

ok have fun


Why is Chandler better? They play in comparable leagues. Stoke just finished mid table. Nuremburg was relegated. Of course, it's far too simplistic to argue that either one was solely responsible for the team results. But I am still unsure why Chandler is simply presumed to be better.

Regardless, I would be surprised if Cameron isn't one of the starting CBs.

What wouldn't surprise me is if Cameron - Brooks are the starters.

admsghs27
Post #150
Tuesday May 27, 2014 6:36pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,167
Jurgen has said he will play different backlines in the friendlies. As of now none of the back 4 are locks, not even Beasley and fabian, besler.

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