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Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #121
Tuesday February 5, 2013 7:33am

Joined Jul 2012
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Altidore - - - - - - - - - - Gomez

- - - - - - -Dempsey

Jones - - - - - - - - - Zusi

- - - - - - - -Bradley

F. Johnson - - - -Boca - - - Cameron - - - - - - Chandler

fixed

DaBurgh
Pittsburgh Pa
Post #122
Tuesday February 5, 2013 11:22am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 77
Not the roster I would've picked, jk left out some good attacking players. No reason to name names but what I do like is that jk is sticking to his word. Every player needs to earn his place on the team through hard work.
So here is my lineup even tho jk will go with something totally different.
-- Altidore---Ej
----duece--
-kljestan--torres
---Bradley--
Johnson- besler-Cameron-Chandler
---- Howard---

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #123
Tuesday February 5, 2013 1:04pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 277
Original post from DaBurgh

Not the roster I would've picked, jk left out some good attacking players. No reason to name names but what I do like is that jk is sticking to his word. Every player needs to earn his place on the team through hard work.
So here is my lineup even tho jk will go with something totally different.
- Altidore--Ej
--duece-
-kljestan-torres
--Bradley-
Johnson- besler-Cameron-Chandler
-- Howard--


I agree, I would have called in different players as well. I like your lineup but don't see it happening. I think JK will go with taller more agressive players like Jones vs smaller guys like torres. I guess well see.

dolcem
Post #124
Tuesday February 5, 2013 1:54pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,045
Original post from thisguy2

No wingers again?!?! Man is this set up for a tie? I see no creative midfielders! What about that attacking soccer he promised?? This ain't going to happen without any attacking midfielders or wingers!!


And who would have liked to see get called up? Gatt? He's out of season. He was one of our best players against Canada but that was against Canada. Adu? As much as I want to see him get called up you can't criticize Klinsmann for not picking a player that absolutely no one wants. Donovan? He's not playing for us at the moment. The only legitimate complaint would be Corona, he should have been called up.

And as far as attacking soccer goes, we don't have any good attacking players so it's not going to happen right now. But at least he's trying. And this is much better soccer than we'd get if we still had Coach Bob. At least sometimes we have decent off-the-ball movement and on a good day we can string together more than two passes.

Original post from richieJkulesaNY

I'm not even going to attempt to make a lineup out of this 24. I think this is a very poorly constructed roster. I can't see a lineup with at least two guys playing out of position. This is going to be ugly. Are we praying for a point here? Somebody please make me feel better about this.


What on earth are you talking about? Everyone on here is posting their starting XI's without any problems or any players playing out of position. I don't have any problem with the roster. Who needed to get called up that didn't? Gatt and Mix are not in season. Neither is Adu or Agudelo. Or Boyd. Evans shouldn't have been called up but he is our back-up RB since Cherundolo is out.

The roster is fine. I have no idea why people are freaking out other than the fact that there's simply a bunch of Klinsmann haters around here that throw a s**tfit every time they disagree with one of the players being called-up. Other than Corona and maybe Agudelo there are no legitimate complaints. I like DaBurgh's lineup but I'd swap Gomez for EJ and Jones for either Klejstan or Torres (I think Torres should start) and move Bradley up to CM.

Gomez Altidore
Dempsey
Torres Bradley
Jones
Johnson Besler Cameron Chandler
Howard

Or, if we decide to play a 4-3-3, just move Gomez to the left and Dempsey to the right:

Gomez Altidore Dempsey
Torres Bradley
Jones
Johnson Besler Cameron Chandler
Howard

I was disappointed Adu wasn't invited to camp (I think though that JK is going to give him a chance during the Gold Cup to see if he impresses, and if so, I think it's a good move, Adu has to earn his spot) and I think Corona should have been called up to provide more attacking options. I like Mix and Feilhaber but they are very similar to Klejstan and Torres. We can't bring all four, we just need two of those, and I prefer Torres and Klejstan.

Lastly, I actually would have liked to see Beckerman called in over Edu but before you go crazy, listen to my reasoning. Edu should be with his new team right now. And Beckerman was our best player against Canada. Now there's no way I'd want Beckerman to see one second of action but I am fine with him getting selected to sit on the bench. It sends a message to the players (and fans, many of whom are convinced JK is anti-American or whatever) that it's OK if you play in MLS as long as you work hard and follow instructions.

I would have liked to see Gatt called up but it seems JK doesn't want to rely on MLS and Scandinavian league guys during this game. They aren't in form since it's the offseason. I doubt any MLS guys start.
NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT WHAT LINEUP YOU USE IN FIFA
rainORshine
Post #125
Tuesday February 5, 2013 2:25pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,773
@ honduras 2013 (predicted) v 2009

i think im the only one who thinks edu will start... anyway - interesting comparison. BBs 'empty bucket' v JKs '3 non-creative midfielder mess'. is this really a step forward?
well, maybe JK will surprise us - (and play kljestan! (for edu))

howard - howard

boca - boca
cameron - gooch
johnson - bornstein
chandler - spector

(edu) - clark
bradley - bradley
jones

dempsey - donovan
gomez - holden

----- davies
altidore - casey

MSantoine
Post #126
Tuesday February 5, 2013 2:35pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,182
Original post from rainORshine

howard - howard

boca - boca
cameron - gooch
johnson - bornstein
chandler - spector

(edu) - clark
bradley - bradley
jones

dempsey - donovan
gomez - holden

--- davies
altidore - casey


Wow. This shows how far we've come in just 4 years. Imagine in another 2. Nice to see Spector, Bornstein, Clark, Casey level players not even getting sniffs anymore. The only place we really dropped is from holden to Jones (which is a better comparison) and donovan to gomez/EJ/Zusi (whichever one starts). Jozy & Deuce are head and shoulders better than davies and casey were at that point (and will ever be). 2013 bradley and whether its Edu, Torres, or Williams is head and shoulders above 09 Bradley and Clark. If we just have a couple of the 19-22 year olds pan out (hopefully on the wing/CAM) we could be looking good real soon

rainORshine
Post #127
Tuesday February 5, 2013 2:52pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,773
if JK starts 3 of bradley, jones, edu, williams in CM i think we should call it the "emptier bucket" formation. im going to, anyway

richieJkulesaNY
Post #128
Tuesday February 5, 2013 3:58pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 941
Original post from dolcem

What on earth are you talking about? Everyone on here is posting their starting XI's without any problems or any players playing out of position. I don't have any problem with the roster. Who needed to get called up that didn't? Gatt and Mix are not in season. Neither is Adu or Agudelo. Or Boyd. Evans shouldn't have been called up but he is our back-up RB since Cherundolo is out..


WE HAVE LITTLE TO ZERO WIDTH ON THIS TEAM. How is that so difficult to realize. Which means we will have guys playing out of position. We DO NOT have the midfield components to play a possession game up the gut. I really hate playing guys out of their natural positions. We've seen it time and time again, it doesnt work.

Anybody that thinks Edu should be starting, right off the bat has a player out of position. I have not seen one lineup that i agree with. This is why i asked if we are praying for a point. I could write down 11 names in this post very easily, just like everybody else has. But I can't actually come up with lineup that makes sense tactically. And I get that getting a point on the road is what we want, but if we go down a goal, I do not believe we have the firepower or tactical flexibility to comeback.

And dont give me this "not in season" nonsense. Gonzo, Besler, Zusi, Evans, and Davis are all not in season.

richieJkulesaNY
Post #129
Tuesday February 5, 2013 5:01pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 941
Ok I guess if I had to...

-------Jozy
------Dempsey
Johnson---------Zusi
----Kljestan-Bradley
Castillo-Boca-Cameron-Chandler
------Howard

I HATE HATE HATE taking Johnson out of the LB spot but he's the only guy on this team that can play LM. Im forcing myself to breathe a little easier.

navi8132
Post #130
Tuesday February 5, 2013 5:06pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,939
I am taking my last Vacation Day tomorrow just so that I can watch this game on an 26 inch computer screen. #USMNTFanProblems

rainORshine
Post #131
Tuesday February 5, 2013 5:12pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,773
Original post from richieJkulesaNY

WE HAVE LITTLE TO ZERO WIDTH ON THIS TEAM.


first, JK will start in a 4-3-3. yes, we are short on wingers, but if things go sour id look to switch to a 3-5-2 - pushing johnson and chandler up on wings, gomez moving up top with altidore and dempsey playing in behind them. if edu is on field you do all this without even making a substitution (move him back b/t boca and cameron). if he is not, you sub him in for jones and then he can return to mid if we tied game.

johnson and chandler are best true wing options and can move there if circumstances call for it. now, would JK do all that? IDK

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #132
Tuesday February 5, 2013 5:17pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,191
Original post from richieJkulesaNY

WE HAVE LITTLE TO ZERO WIDTH ON THIS TEAM. How is that so difficult to realize. Which means we will have guys playing out of position. We DO NOT have the midfield components to play a possession game up the gut. I really hate playing guys out of their natural positions. We've seen it time and time again, it doesnt work.

Anybody that thinks Edu should be starting, right off the bat has a player out of position. I have not seen one lineup that i agree with. This is why i asked if we are praying for a point. I could write down 11 names in this post very easily, just like everybody else has. But I can't actually come up with lineup that makes sense tactically. And I get that getting a point on the road is what we want, but if we go down a goal, I do not believe we have the firepower or tactical flexibility to comeback.

And dont give me this "not in season" nonsense. Gonzo, Besler, Zusi, Evans, and Davis are all not in season.


The width will be coming from Johnson and Chandler who both get forward really well. The lineup I put up which is what I EXPECT JK to do, not what I want, makes sense tactically.....even still, most of the lineups that are put out, minus a couple, make sense tactically. Maybe you should put, "I don't agree with tactically" or maybe you don't understand what tactics are. With Deuce and Altidore on the field, we have a chance to score. Sure, he didn't bring many wide players but his tactical flexibility will be having to go more offensive...ie if Jones/Williams/Edu, take them off and put a combo of Kljestan/Torres or move Zusi in and put EJ on the wing.

Alcharod
302
Post #133
Tuesday February 5, 2013 5:44pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 574
Original post from USnLFCfan

The width will be coming from Johnson and Chandler who both get forward really well. The lineup I put up which is what I EXPECT JK to do, not what I want, makes sense tactically.....even still, most of the lineups that are put out, minus a couple, make sense tactically. Maybe you should put, "I don't agree with tactically" or maybe you don't understand what tactics are. With Deuce and Altidore on the field, we have a chance to score. Sure, he didn't bring many wide players but his tactical flexibility will be having to go more offensive...ie if Jones/Williams/Edu, take them off and put a combo of Kljestan/Torres or move Zusi in and put EJ on the wing.


Def agree with Zusi and EJ on the wing, i said they should try a 4-4-1-1 you have that as well or just the 4-4-2 both up to? I like Demps behind Jozy and roam a little bit.

richieJkulesaNY
Post #134
Tuesday February 5, 2013 7:46pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 941
Original post from USnLFCfan

The width will be coming from Johnson and Chandler who both get forward really well. The lineup I put up which is what I EXPECT JK to do, not what I want, makes sense tactically.....even still, most of the lineups that are put out, minus a couple, make sense tactically. Maybe you should put, "I don't agree with tactically" or maybe you don't understand what tactics are. With Deuce and Altidore on the field, we have a chance to score. Sure, he didn't bring many wide players but his tactical flexibility will be having to go more offensive...ie if Jones/Williams/Edu, take them off and put a combo of Kljestan/Torres or move Zusi in and put EJ on the wing.


Your lineup makes sense tactically how!? You think that midfield (Williams, Bradley, Jones) will be able to possess the ball long enough high up the field to allow Johnson and Chandler the freedom to get up? Not one of them likes to push that far up, which will in turn, create some clusterf*** in the midfield making it so easy to defend. This isnt a home game against Guatemala. Honduras isnt going to sit back and let us knock the ball around past the midline.

Of course we have a chance to score. Im sure we'll win some 50-50 balls in the midifled creating some kind of attack that might result in a free kick or corner. I got news for you though, that isnt tactics. And If nothing is going right, dont worry, lets bring EJ in to play on the wing. Im sorry man, did you watch him play against Canada? He might of been able to cut it (barely) against A&B and Guatemala, but we're on another level here.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #135
Tuesday February 5, 2013 7:59pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,191
Original post from richieJkulesaNY

Your lineup makes sense tactically how!? You think that midfield (Williams, Bradley, Jones) will be able to possess the ball long enough high up the field to allow Johnson and Chandler the freedom to get up? Not one of them likes to push that far up, which will in turn, create some clusterf*** in the midfield making it so easy to defend. This isnt a home game against Guatemala. Honduras isnt going to sit back and let us knock the ball around past the midline.

Of course we have a chance to score. Im sure we'll win some 50-50 balls in the midifled creating some kind of attack that might result in a free kick or corner. I got news for you though, that isnt tactics. And If nothing is going right, dont worry, lets bring EJ in to play on the wing. Im sorry man, did you watch him play against Canada? He might of been able to cut it (barely) against A&B and Guatemala, but we're on another level here.


Not as well as Bradley, Kljestan, Jones/Williams would but yes, they are still more than capable of holding the ball against Honduras. You haven't watched much of Jones if you don't believe he likes to push forward, not that he is the best for the job but he loves to get up field as does Bradley at times. Bringing on a more attacking player for a defensive minded MF isn't changing tactics???? Are you sure you understand what tactics are? I'm not debating that it will be effective or that Johnson is good enough, I'm just saying it is a change of tactics. Regardless of whether you believe EJ is good enough, he is much faster than Zusi on the wing, so it will force Honduras to be more conservative going forward on that side due to the ability to hit them on the counter.

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