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bbakerxyz
Post #46
Monday January 7, 2013 1:48am

Joined Oct 2012
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Relax, guys, it's the B camp. Look, I'm excited to see a lot of the 19-20 year old prospects as much as the next guy, but none of them are Messi at 19 so they aren't getting snubbed. Big deal, so what if they get their first cap at 21 vs. 19?

Oh and BTW, what's the deal w/ Beckerman? Is there something I'm missing? Anyone on these forums want to defend him and tell us something good about him that we don't know?

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #47
Monday January 7, 2013 1:51am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 264
I think Beckerman and Felharber are on the squad for locker room leadership. Both have many caps for the nats and can guide the youngsters through the process. Just my thought.

dolcem
Post #48
Monday January 7, 2013 2:32am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,026
Original post from Alcharod

No I agree 100% trust me. I'm waiting for someone to create the PLEASE FIRE JK FB page. Cause it's time for this guy to go. I'm not sitting here waiting for the WC2014 only for this fool to waste 4 years for me i'm sorry....


You have lost all credibility. JK hasn't been perfect but it's idiotic to be calling for his head already. And anyway, who would you rather see in his place? Another Bunker Bob type coach? NCAA tactics? I've been disappointed with JK's inability to get us to play the attacking style he has preached about but it has only been a year and a half. This is a long-term project and can't be done overnight. And the thing is we are in between generations. Our player pool is very deep in certain positions but our NT is not good right now. Our core, Donovan, Dempsey, Howard, Cherundolo, Bocanegra, etc. is too old and we just don't have any very good young players at the moment that are ready to break into our senior team. We are especially lacking in attacking options.

To be honest I would rather see JK coaching us than any other coach in the world. Sure there are plenty of better coaches out there but coaching a country outside of Europe/South America is a completely different ballgame. Our system is very unique and coaching the USNT is a very different challenge from coaching a European country. Even if we brought in a top-level European manager here they would probably be a disappointment (eg Eriksson at Mexico). Klinsmann, however, was not only a legend as a player but is a qualified good young manager who, unlike any good manager in the world, is familiar with the American soccer system (spent lots of time scouting during his time in the US). And the difference between Klinsmann and Guus Hiddink, who is the only manager I'm familiar with who could adapt to completely different styles and coach national teams outside of Europe and do well, would just be a mercenary (he is always leaving). Klinsmann married an American and lives in the states. He wants to be a part of American soccer history, he wants to help it grow. This was a coach who, after getting 3rd place in the World Cup and was highly sought out by teams over Europe, chose the US first (and was turned down by Gulati). So he went to Bayern Munich instead. How many qualified coaches in the world would choose the US over Bayern Munich?

Original post from bbakerxyz

Relax, guys, it's the B camp. Look, I'm excited to see a lot of the 19-20 year old prospects as much as the next guy, but none of them are Messi at 19 so they aren't getting snubbed. Big deal, so what if they get their first cap at 21 vs. 19?

Oh and BTW, what's the deal w/ Beckerman? Is there something I'm missing? Anyone on these forums want to defend him and tell us something good about him that we don't know?


Beckerman is obviously not good enough for us but he got way too much criticism. He didn't play badly for us, he did his job as the anchor. If he plays in 2014 I'll be furious but that won't happen. I think I understand what Klinsmann did with Beckerman. It is early in his tenure and he wanted to find a hard-working MLS player who did exactly what JK asked him to do on the pitch. This accomplished two things: it showed that Klinsmann wasn't anti-MLS (which is what a lot of people would have thought, a lot of Americans aren't too happy about a foreigner coaching us, especially someone from outside the American system) and it sent a message to the players that working hard and following the coaches' instructions is the most important thing. This motivates the players because it encourages the ones that aren't as good (they believe they can have a chance) as well as the better players (they know their spot isn't guaranteed). Anyway, nothing wrong with calling up Beckerman to this camp, he provides experience and leadership and he is good enough for it (though not good enough to make a final roster).
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2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #49
Monday January 7, 2013 2:40am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 4,609
And Dolcem continues to write books.

dolcem
Post #50
Monday January 7, 2013 2:45am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,026
Now, on to Adu.

His omission is absolutely infuriating.

I agree with you guys that he should not be called up for qualifying. He has proven at the club level, time and time again, that there is something wrong with him (it seems to be his work ethic). And he isn't playing that well in the MLS (though I think that has a lot to do with the players around him). If he all of the sudden got called up to a US roster it would be unjustified.

Adu, however, is the most creative player in our pool. He has proven himself for our national team time and time again. More importantly, he is EXACTLY who we need. We lack creativity in the final third. We lack that difference maker. What we need is a creative number 10 who can run at defenders and deliver that killer ball. Or at least a creative winger and move Dempsey into the middle. JK has looked all over for that player. He gave Torres, a deep-lying playmaker, a ton of chances as an attacking midfielder. I remember him trying Fabian Johnson as an attacking mid once or twice. We've ever played guys like Bradley and Williams on the wing. Aside from Donovan and Dempsey we don't have any halfway decent wingers or attacking midfielders in our pool.

So January camp is the perfect time to call up Adu. It's for fringe players and it's when we see the worst players in our national team setup. It's perfect for Adu. Give him a chance to go there, work hard, and then if he does well against Canada, we can give him another call-up. We had absolutely nothing to lose by calling him to the January camp. But if he plays like has has for us in the past, than we have everything to gain. We have the player we've been looking for. At the very least we have the exact type of sub that can create a spark when we're losing at the end of games.

It absolutely blows my mind that he didn't get called and now I fear this was his last chance to suit up for the NT. Hopefully he moves to a different MLS team with a better supporting cast and a better coach.

This, along with giving Torres hardly any chances at his position (CM), has bothered me more than any other decision Klinsmann has made.
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USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #51
Monday January 7, 2013 2:48am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,123
Original post from 2tone

And Dolcem continues to write books.


Haha...thinking the same thing but I agree with him.Too much typing for me though.

admsghs27
Post #52
Monday January 7, 2013 2:52am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,733
A few too many drinks dolcem lol.... I think all the players are competetive a couple of them will make the wc... i think gyau, de leon, cob.. should of been there... Cj sapong also but he might be going to arsenal... Anyways i live a couple miles away from the hdc.. hopefully i get to talk to some of the players, get pics and autographs, as i did last year.. should be fun...

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #53
Monday January 7, 2013 2:53am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,123
Till the Adu and Torres comments....I think it wouldn't hurt to call him in, but I'm not upset. I expect to see him in the Gold Cup. As for Torres, he has been played in his preferred position and numerous others but has yet to make an impact.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #54
Monday January 7, 2013 2:56am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,123
Original post from admsghs27

A few too many drinks dolcem lol.... I think all the players are competetive a couple of them will make the wc... i think gyau, de leon, cob.. should of been there... Cj sapong also but he might be going to arsenal... Anyways i live a couple miles away from the hdc.. hopefully i get to talk to some of the players, get pics and autographs, as i did last year.. should be fun...


I thought the CJ Sapong rumor was a joke......

Alcharod
302
Post #55
Monday January 7, 2013 3:03am

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 574
Original post from 2tone

And Dolcem continues to write books.


Yea I agree, Dolcem next time you disagree with what i wrote, just say I Disagree with Alcharod.... Stopped reading after the first couple sentences...

dolcem
Post #56
Monday January 7, 2013 3:12am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,026
One of my skills is being able to write a lot very fast (had to learn it in college). Being able to make a point in writing in very few words, though is definitely not. And I have too much free time at the moment as well.

Original post from USnLFCfan

Till the Adu and Torres comments....I think it wouldn't hurt to call him in, but I'm not upset. I expect to see him in the Gold Cup. As for Torres, he has been played in his preferred position and numerous others but has yet to make an impact.


If Adu gets called up for the Gold Cup I'll eat my words. If not, this was a huge mistake. Obviously, Adu might not be able to be a big contributor for us. But there is so much upside to giving him a chance. If he plays for us like he has in the past than he could be the exact player we are looking for.

As far as Torres goes, he was rarely played at CM under JK and when he was he looked very good. Mostly Klinsmann played him as a winger (and in a 4-5-1 or 4-3-3) or CAM because Jurgen has been looking for that creative player who can make a difference in the final third. But that is absolutely not Torres' position, he is a deep-lying playmaker. He doesn't need to try Torres there, that's exactly what Adu could do for us. So he better be on that Gold Cup roster. And I want to see Torres there too and played as a CM.
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Footyskillz
Arlington, VA
Post #57
Monday January 7, 2013 4:11am

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 291
I don't want this to become too Adu centralized, but I can't help but remember the last time he suited up for us (or I think the last time) vs. Mexico in the GC final. I thought he did great even though we lost.
USMNT, Porto, and Bundesliga fanatic - T: @gouldinho_j
MSantoine
Post #58
Monday January 7, 2013 4:44am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,937
Question for the people who think Adu got snubbed only. If Adu's only problem is showing consistency at the club level what would he gain by bringing him in? If he's already the most technically gifted player in the whole US player pool. What does he gain playing with C level talent against Canada's B/C team?

Footyskillz
Arlington, VA
Post #59
Monday January 7, 2013 4:53am

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 291
I think people just wanted to see that JK acknowledges his presence.
USMNT, Porto, and Bundesliga fanatic - T: @gouldinho_j
bjelks
Post #60
Monday January 7, 2013 5:32am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 145
Adu would gain an opportunity to stand out in a camp and friendly roster comprised of players that our Managing Staff believes are the best US prospects domestically.

He would also have an opportunity to remove all doubt of his quality and invaluability to the US soccer program.

Most importantly, he would have an opportunity to earn a spot on the Honduras roster.
goalsense
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