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Bshredder
Post #1
Thursday December 20, 2012 10:23pm

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Bottom line is that Sasha had a great year in 2012.

1) Won Belgian title.

2) Coaching change at Anderlecht and he forced himself back into the starting lineup soon after.

3) He wasn't in Klinsmann's plans but forced himself into the team by the end of the year.

4) Awesome stat.. With Kljestan, Anderlecht win 72% of all possible points. Without Kljestan, they win 42%

That's pretty valuable.

He's not respected nearly enough by American fans.

MSantoine
Post #2
Thursday December 20, 2012 10:28pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Couldn't agree more. I dont know why he hasn't gotten looks. He should definitely be in the mix to start at winger vs honduras

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #3
Thursday December 20, 2012 10:32pm

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Original post from MSantoine

Couldn't agree more. I dont know why he hasn't gotten looks. He should definitely be in the mix to start at winger vs honduras


Winger? Uhm, no. Kljestan is slowwwww. He has had a good year. Still a sub for the USMNT in my opinion.

Bshredder
Post #4
Thursday December 20, 2012 10:42pm

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I agree not a winger.

In central midfield, I think you can make a reasonable arguement that he should be higher than Edu or Danny Williams at the present moment. Of course Michael Bradley and Jermaine Jones are playing at a higher level but Sasha cold be right after them.

Red
NY
Post #5
Thursday December 20, 2012 10:49pm

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I agree with Bshredder, Kljestan has not been respected enough by US fans. Imo Kljestan>Williams and Edu. He can pass the ball he is a better distributor...its not enough to one dimensional like Edu and Williams who are great at holding their positions and winning the ball back but if you want to hold possession and be more of a progressive attacking side Sasha should be ahead of both Williams and Edu.

venicebeachbull
Post #6
Friday December 21, 2012 1:25am

Joined Jun 2012
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It's actually Sacha. Nonetheless, I agree he should get more time with the Nats.

During the Russia friendly he received a cross in the box and perfectly headed it down to MB, who unfortunately missed the goal. Afterwards, I believe Twellman said Sacha should've taken the shot, but I didn't agree the time. Bradley shoulda scored, the pass in my opinion was smart and unselfish. Most novice types would've tried to take an awkward shot, but Sacha passed to an open teammate with a better chance to score. It was an 'ah ha' moment for me with Kljestan, finally realizing his development and worth.

DougieB11
Avon, IN
Post #7
Friday December 21, 2012 7:31am

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 49
I think the biggest issue for Sacha is when JK goes with the 4-3-3. Because unless Jones is dropped a midfield of Jones Bradley Klejstan won't work. I agree that he should see more playing time, but it has to come at the expense of Jones or the 4-3-3. I would like to see a midfield of Williams/#6, Bradley, Klejstan more or run a 4-2-3-1 with Sacha, Dempsey, and Zusi interchanging as attacking mids... Personally i wouldnt mind seeing JJ come of the bench more to reduce his red card risk and just let him run wild.

rainORshine
Post #8
Friday December 21, 2012 3:14pm

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id partner bradley with SK - 35 assists in MLS, 5 last year for anderlecht, 7 so far this year...simply ONLY hope for consistent offensive contribution/creativity out of CM position. has learned to play defense in belgium. jones just does not do enough

mbw
Post #9
Friday December 21, 2012 9:23pm

Joined Jul 2012
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Original post from DougieB11

I think the biggest issue for Sacha is when JK goes with the 4-3-3.


I agree. The Kljestan-Edu/Williams comp is a bad one, because they don't play the same position; one of Edu, Williams, and Beckerman will always be on the pitch for the US because the use of a dedicated DM has stopped the US from hemorrhaging goals as they did in 2010 and 2011. It's hard to see Kljestan jumping Jones or Bradley in the pecking order at the CM/8 position. So his best chance for big minutes is a return to the diamond midfield (in which he'd play the point) or as a tucked-in winger, Zusi-style, in a 4-1-4-1.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #10
Friday December 21, 2012 10:51pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,120
Original post from rainORshine

jones just does not do enough


I agree, Jones is a quality player, but doesn't show that hunger and drive that SK has these past two years. I typically only see that passion out of Jones is when he goes lunging wrecklessly into another challenge. He's on even footing with Jones as far as distributional capacity (in my opinion) and the difference in my mind, in terms of strongest characteristics, is where Jones relies on his strength, SK relies more on off the ball movement. I firmly believe that off the ball movement is more important in breaking down a defense than strength, so SK gets the nod from me.

Now, get a fully fit and in form Stu in the mix and all of the above goes out the window.

thisguy2
Inland empire
Post #11
Saturday December 22, 2012 9:52pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 192
Anyone who says Sasha is better than Jones is out of their mind! How are you going to rate that player with Jones and say they are both the same talent lol don't get me wrong he's a ok player BUT no where near Jones calibre! If he was on the same level as Jones why isn't he on a better team or league??

I will say he does deserve another chance with the national team....
Thisguy2
rainORshine
Post #12
Sunday December 23, 2012 12:36am

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,770
Original post from thisguy2

Anyone who says Sasha is better than Jones is out of their mind! How are you going to rate that player with Jones and say they are both the same talent lol don't get me wrong he's a ok player BUT no where near Jones calibre! If he was on the same level as Jones why isn't he on a better team or league??

I will say he does deserve another chance with the national team....


its not really a question of better - its apples and oranges. no one can argue that jones is the more 'accomplished' player, but that is not the question.
here is how it breaks down:
1) bradley is a starter in CM. while bradley can get forward effectively he is, at heart, a defensively oriented player. since going to italy last season he has been very successful and has combined for 2 goals, 2 assists for chievo/roma
2) jones is defensively oriented - anything he gives you offensively is a bonus. pairing jones with bradley is a reprise of BBs empty bucket, jones just being a little better than clark/edu
3) kljestan is offensively oriented but has learned to play both sides of the ball partnering lucus biglia, argentinian version of m. bradley, for anderlecht.

without a shot of creativity in CM US will always struggle to consistently find offense. why was 2002 version so successful? creativity from obrien and reyna, among other things. is SK as good? i dont see that is really matters, as he is really the only candidate to fill that role right now

not a sure fire decision, but that is the logic of starting SK. it is possible that jones' resume is hurting the team. it is hard not to start a guy who starts at schalke, but starting him may mean denying the team a component it desperately needs

Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #13
Monday December 31, 2012 5:21am

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,031
Should get a shot in the center of the park after the year he's had.

Bshredder
Post #14
Wednesday April 17, 2013 9:34pm

Joined Aug 2011
Total Posts: 1,459
GOAL!

Sacha scored today against Lokeren to give Anderlecht a 3-0 win today in the playoffs.

By all accounts he looked really good today

rainORshine
Post #15
Wednesday April 17, 2013 11:20pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,770
Original post from Bshredder

GOAL!

Sacha scored today against Lokeren to give Anderlecht a 3-0 win today in the playoffs.

By all accounts he looked really good today


a golaso from 20+ yards out, no less. leads yanks abroad in assists and can throw in some saucy goals - what does the guy have to do just to get a legit look at CM?

ill revise my statement from above and say that a 4-3-3 (or 3-5-2) with some sort of triangle involving bradley, kljestan, jones in CM is the way to go.

the fact that the best offensive-minded CM of his generation has not been given a solitary start by JK is mind-boggling (for me it is unforgivable)

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